I think this not correct, they still are the party of the little guy, but they are not perceived as such by the blue collar worker. The messaging of the Republicans has been strong in this area, though their actual policies are not.
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FWIW Bernie Sanders agrees with @Crafter_Man
Maybe not. But I’ll bet he’s got some smart and clever people on his team. He didn’t win this in a vacuum.
The difference is, they’ve put white nationalists in power who aren’t going to care if they think of themselves as “white”.
This is a repeat of what happened in 2016; members of minorities voted for Trump and got blindsided when it turned out that they were included among the undesirables.
Since when has he listened to smart and clever people? He’s convinced he knows better than everyone else. That’s why he’s always off-script.
No. They should stake out their own, to the left of where they are.
Just flat out call for, I dunno, universal single payer health insurance. You think it’ll lose them elections? No sir. It’ll WIN them.
We’re not seriously going to suggest 40 mins of dancing, fellating a microphone and eating the dawgs are 4D chess again are we?
I can credit Trump with some things. He’s a showman, and he amplifies and discards messages based on the response he gets from his crowds. That’s it.
And his team? Heck in some of his later rants he even called out some of his campaign staff by name, scoffing at some of the advice they were giving him. But getting him on Rogan was a good move, and indeed it seems the strategy of avoiding debates (including the primaries) and any real interview paid off.
(You’d think that voters would be put off by him running scared, but it seems acting tough is a better strategy than doing anything tough.)
Anyone? I will direct you to my post in the “show me your map” thread… I will wait for my flowers.
It’s pretty telling that I genuinely cannot tell if that was meant sarcastically or not.
One of the commentators on CNN recently said something to the effect that the scale of Trump’s win should be telling us something significant about what voters are looking for, the implication being that 72 million voters can’t all be idiots. To which my response would be, why can’t they? Has this commentator ever spoken to a Trump voter, ever asked them substantive questions of fact, and listened to their answers?
While they may have varied motivations for voting for Trump, including being truly evil and racist, the most frequent recurring profile is a bizarre combination of low-information and belief in lies, and innate stupidity. One woman, hesitant to say why she was supporting Trump, when pressed on it finally declared it was because Biden was the devil incarnate.
They voted for white supremacists, if the truth makes them looks stupid that’s just too bad.
Gee, and vilifying Democrats drives them away, but it doesn’t seem to be hurting your side. In fact, they can hardly contain their glee when a GOP politician “owns the libs.”
Not one single ounce of sarcasm. It’s a winning position.
How many Jimmy Kimmel “Street interviews” are there? They seem to find plenty.
My side lost the election. What are you talking about?
I get your point that Democrats need to be bolder and more assertive and less wishy-washy and compromising, but single-payer health care is not the path to success. This is simply because America is politically too far to the right for that to fly, and moving further right with every passing year. A central tenet of this political conservatism is an extreme – almost pathologically paranoid – distrust of government. UHC would be great in the US but until there are fundamental changes in the political landscape it will remain a pipe dream.
You may have heard of Operation Coffee Cup, the campaign against Medicare that helped propel Ronald Reagan to political fame. This was in the 1960s when America was substantially more liberal than it is today; in this campaign, Reagan warned of the great threat of looming “socialism” that would befall America should Medicare ever be enacted, saying that “one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”
The reality is that even something as innocuous as Medicare couldn’t be enacted in today’s political climate (the ACA was a huge uphill battle, and it’s really nothing more than regulated private health insurance).
I believe she was speaking in the hypothetical. Trump’s entire campaign was based on vilifying anyone and everyone who opposed him, and it made his base support him all the more, and apparently enlarged it.
On this business of vilification and “condescension” from the Xitter link you posted, maybe I should clarify my previous remarks. I suggested that the 72 million voters who voted for Trump were some combination of racists and low-information idiots because that’s exactly what they are. Some significant fraction of them are no doubt habitual “R” voters who voted that way either because they didn’t understand how toxic and dangerous Trump was, or they didn’t care, which is just as bad.
This statement about the ignorance of Trump voters is not meant as a campaign strategy, but as an analytical statement of fact. There’s a dysfunction in this nation that is akin to a viral disease. It’s a disease that threatens democracy, and Trump is only a symptom of it. It will persist after he’s gone and replaced by a successor, possibly Vance. It’s a problem that needs to be understood before it can be addressed, and hiding behind inoffensive euphemisms isn’t helpful to understanding it.
Which explains not why a key component of the near uniform voting swing to Trump was the economy effect on household budgets, specifically the impact high inflation.
Lets be ungracious and argue inflation caused by a stimulus package used to ameliorate the impact of a million Americans dying in a pandemic made materially worse by White House indifference and quackery .
And what is the singular economic fix proposed by POTUS 45/47 … across the board tariffs and targeted punitive tariffs which anybody with Econ 1.01 understands will put a rocket under domestic inflation.
“I will fix [supply side] inflation [by imposing demand side inflation].”
Quando dio vuole castigarci, ci manda quello che desideriamo
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Although I voted for Obama in '08, I didn’t particularly see McCain as the devil. Sedaris apparently felt different back then, and went ahead and used up all of his hyperbole. I wonder how he feels about this year’s election.