Elective surgical lobotomy questions

If a person voluntarily gets himself surgically lobotomized (whether by a doctor or in a “back-alley”) and then wants to take cortex replacement therapy, then would his insurance cover this?

Any thoughts on this?

Also, Yes, this is a completely serious question.
And what would my personality be like, after the change? Would I no longer recognize friends or family? Would my personality undergo odd changes, be subject to random fits of shouting at the imaginary roaches on my walls, and spinning in circles? Would I forget how to do simple arithmetic? Leave my possessions strewn all over creation? Would the insurance also cover a guide dog, to keep me from wandering randomly into traffic?

Those are also completely serious questions.

Elective surgical lobotomy? Man, that would take balls.

“Cortex replacement therapy”? That’s a thing? Last I heard nerve loss in the CNS was basically irreversible.

As to insurance coverage, I suspect it’s possible. Doesn’t insurance cover the medical care needed to recover from other self-inflicted traumas, like a suicide attempt?

But you still want to be able to write a Ph.D dissertation, right? Elective lobotomy is the only certain way to prevent making a typo.

Snicker

Rent and watch One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest with Jack Nicholson.

Back alley surgeon: “Heh, we take lungs today, next week you get gills”.
Fry: Alright!

A parody of another poster’s thread belongs in The Pit. Off it goes.

You said “lobotomy”, as in 1950s, as in “ice pick thrust past the inner canthus of the eye into the front of the brain and wiggled around to sever the nerves”. The doctor who made them famous, Dr. Walter Freeman, is said to have once done two simultaneously, one with his left hand and one with the right hand, to show off how easy it was.

By most reports, you would

• not care very intensely about anything, ever again; you would cease to have much emotional reponse of any sort to anything, although it might be possible for something to annoy or amuse you briefly

• you can kiss a few points’ worth of your IQ goodbye; anticipate an outcome somewhere between low normal (like 85 or 90) and tree stump level, assuming you don’t simply die (there’s not a lot of finesse involved in the process, in case you weren’t too clear on that point)

• memory was not generally listed among the things most centrally damaged by the process; admittedly one should not draw too many conclusions based on the absence of something being mentioned, but if I recall correctly people knew their names and could recognize family members; the above article mentions some people having to relearn things like how to go to the bathroom but I’m not sure memory was the issue there.
Psychosurgery is not entirely dead, although it is not in good repute; modern versions do not fly under the namebrand banner of “lobotomy” and instead may be found listed under terms like “cingulotomy” and “leukotomy”. It’s still intentional destruction of medically healthy brain tissue, any way you, umm, slice it.

It sounds stupid, but insurance should have to cover it, just like any other self inflicted injury.

What thread is this a parody of?

Hey, if it means you’re no longer financially responsible for anything stupid you might hypothetically have done with your brain, it’s TOTES WORTH IT!!

TriPolar - literally any of the dozens of threads Futurist110 has started. Pick one at random. They’re all the same.

If you get lobotomized, but are still able to commit crimes, does the doctor who performed the lobotomy go to prison instead of you?

Will you be financially responsible for the ideas you create? What if you give someone an idea and they die? What if someone turns your idea inside-out and uses it?

So, win win!

What the fuck are you talking about?

Edit: Sorry. I’m an idiot. I just got it. Good one :slight_smile:

Edit 2: For anyone who, like me, was a little slow on the uptake on this one, the OP is a parody of some of the…shall we say speculative hypotheticals proposed by this poster.

I’m not sure. Maybe you better start twenty more threads about this question, in all the different forums, before we decide.

And if you subsequently write a Ph.D. Thesis, can you sue the doctor for the cost of your tuition because the lobotomy was clearly ineffective?

Perhaps Futurist has already been lobotomized. It would explain a lot…

On a serious note, several weeks ago, I saw an interview on C-SPAN2’s “About Books” with the author of the new Rosemary Kennedy biography. Someone in the Q&A asked if lobotomies are still being performed in the United States today, and she said they are.

The procedure is only done when all other known therapies have proven useless, it involves several layers of medical ethics, and (this is probably the biggest obstacle) none of the entities involved are allowed to receive any payment for it. :eek: A neurosurgeon she spoke to while doing research for the book said he had done it twice in recent years; she divulged no further details.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?328843-1/kate-clifford-larson-rosemary

Where do I sign up? That sounds a lot better than my day to day existence is now.

If you had any balls, you’d know.