Emerald City - New show on NBC (some boxed spoilers)

Possibly, but they already had been through that, when they met at the city gates after a 20-year absence and North tells West how terrible she looks. This seems to be something else and something worse.

I read it as her showing up drunk for work. Sure, Glinda may have known she was a lush, but this just drove the point home.

Maybe I’m getting slow in my old age but it confused me. I know it’s supposed to create mystery. You’re not supposed to know if the witches are good or bad or what’s up with the Wizard. It just seems like a mess not a mystery.

What the hell is up with Dinofrio’s accent? His weirdly wooden performance is very disappointing after watching him in Daredevil where even when he is quiet and still he is still acting his ass off.

I think they’re just demonstrating that the Wizard is a fraud. Maybe he’ll have a scene with someone who knows/learns his secret and he’ll use his real Oscar Z. P. I. N. H. E. A. Diggs Omaha voice.

I didn’t much care for it. For one thing, I’m a little tired of the steampunk look they gave the Emerald City. But I like the fact that there’s a whole coven of witches. I hope the producers drop houses and police cars on them on a regular basis.

Oh my God, they killed a witch!
You BASTARDS!

I gotta admit, I’m right in there with the “Sharknado-esque” writing. Yeah, the visuals are gorgeous, but how they could wring this fetid puddle of Mediaevalist hallucinogenic disco Eurotrash out of one of the most thoroughly American works of literature is beyond me. I couldn’t make it all the way to the end – once Mr. singular left the room there was no one to share snark with, and my urge to make it through to the end left the room with him.

So very true. But nice to look at, I agree.

Watched the first episode (first hour) and found it pretty tepid. I agree that it’s nice to look at visually, but that’s about it, other than curiosity as to how they design certain characters. I found the Wizard himself to be pretty disappointing.

The witch of the East killing herself with the gun was grade-A hilarity.

I love it. I want to live in the Wizard’s bedroom.

With the Wizard.

I liked it. It was a totally different take on the classic story, with none of the treacle. Dorothy is pragmatic, doesn’t act all helpless, and acts as the driving force to the rest of the cast.

I didn’t think the Scarecrow was supposed to represent Jesus. He was abused like he was a scarecrow, hung from a cross-like structure scarecrows usually hang from. He couldn’t remember what had happened to him, as if he lacked a brain. Moreover, he acted thick and clueless enough to get on Dorthy’s nerves.

I’m thinking the two children are the equivalents of the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion, as the boy uses an axe and the girl was confined by her guardian, not allowed to leave the hut, because of fear of the outside world.

The scene where the Wizard had removed his wig and sulked did indeed drive home the point that he was phony and had no actual powers. He used psychological brainwashing to keep the witches helpless and the Oznians wary of magic.

Airing on Friday nights is pretty much a death sentence, but maybe it’ll be picked up by Syfy or something.

Wound in his side, exact place Jesus was supposedly speared.

Lettering on the cross above his head, barbed wire (thorns).

Neon sign with flashing arrow pointing to him saying “Jesus Symbol, HINT, HINT”. :smiley:

But subtle.

Subtle, like the lingering shot of the mailbox with “GALE” on the side in giant letters, just in case people hadn’t put two and two together yet. snarksnarksnark

No, the kids are characters from other Oz books, as was Mombi.

Tip is actually Ozma, the rightful ruler of Oz.
Jack is Jack Pumpkinhead. It says so right in the IMDB credits.

The girl is definitely Ozma, the boy probably Jack Pumpkinhead-to-be. The Tin Man is going to be either that guard captain if he gets killed later *or *the guy he already dismembered, reassembled.

What, no link to tobacco conspiracies?

What purpose would be served by making Scarecrow a Jesus figure? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Purpose? Maybe just something thrown in to reassure the ultra-religious set that the show (possibly) won’t all be pagans writhing about in orgiastic dances … or, rather, heretical ceremonies.

Personally, I’d just skip over about 50% and try to keep the plot moving right along. But, that’s just me.

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