Enola Straight and Overly Presumptuous Valets

[Frylock]

@Stranger On A Train

Which indicates that he does not know what he is doing. As with begging medical or legal advice, this is really something one should learn by immediate direct example from someone who does know what they’re doing, rather than asking questions on a message board. And again, before one starts lifting up and moving someone else’s vehicle about, one should probably have the financial and liablity protections. As for breaking into a vehicle and bypassing the ignition, I’m pretty certain that if this is done without legal writ or under the direction of a police officer, it is illegal, regardless of where the individual in question parked the car.

Well, that’s all true. And it’s all material that seems appropriate as an answer to his GQ question. But where’s the Pit material?

Whether he damages it or not, it’s not a “no problem”; it’s a amateurish, overreaching valet. There’s likely a reason the dreaded management does not provide tools and equipment for doing this.

This is more like Pit material. (In other words, here you’re indicting the character of the person, rather than simply answering the question he asked in the first place.) But I have never been a valet, so I am not equipped to say whether what Enola Straight wanted to do was “overreaching.” Personally, it would bother me not one whit to find out a valet had done something to make it possible to push my car around the lot without keys, provided what he had done was guaranteed not to damage my car. (In the thread you linked to, he mentions that there are manufacturer-provided ways to do this on at least some models, pretty much by just pushing a button.) But I realize tastes differ.

-FrL-

[Stranger_On_A_Train]

@Frylock

Well, that’s all true. And it’s all material that seems appropriate as an answer to his GQ question. But where’s the Pit material?..This is more like Pit material. (In other words, here you’re indicting the character of the person, rather than simply answering the question he asked in the first place.)

So, do I rank at least a 7.0 from the East German judge?

Stranger

[Frylock]

@Stranger On A Train

So, do I rank at least a 7.0 from the East German judge?

Stranger

I only process the applications.

-FrL-

(East German judge? What’s the reference there?)

[Stranger_On_A_Train]

@Frylock

Well, that’s all true. And it’s all material that seems appropriate as an answer to his GQ question. But where’s the Pit material?..This is more like Pit material. (In other words, here you’re indicting the character of the person, rather than simply answering the question he asked in the first place.)

So, do I rank at least a 6.7 from the East German judge?

Stranger

[Frylock]

@Stranger On A Train

So, do I rank at least a 6.7 from the East German judge?

Stranger

I still only process the applications.

-FrL-

[Stranger_On_A_Train]

@Frylock

I only process the applications.

-FrL-

(East German judge? What’s the reference there?)

I’m not sure how that post got doubled. Weird.

The “East German judge” is the one who (apocryphally) always gave unfairly discounted scores to non-East Bloc athletes in the Olympics. This is, of course, before the fall of the Soviet Union and reunification of Germany. Thanks for making me feel on the far side of middle-aged for having to explain the punchline. :o

Stranger

[galt]

I gotta say, those GoJacks don’t look like a very safe way to move a car to me, unless you’re on a very level and smooth surface. Not only do they not have brakes, but they’re free-swiveling casters, so the car will move and spin in any old direction it feels like.

[Rick]

@galt

I gotta say, those GoJacks don’t look like a very safe way to move a car to me, unless you’re on a very level and smooth surface. Not only do they not have brakes, but they’re free-swiveling casters, so the car will move and spin in any old direction it feels like.

Having moved a couple of zillion cars using just floor jacks (not nearly as upscale as GoJacks) I can tell you this is not as big a problem as you might think. If you have two guys it is not really a problem. Unless your valet drive is nicknamed Lover’s Leap.

@Stranger on a Train

Go back and check out the links. In fact, he does open up the bonnet, poke around the engine, paw through storage bins, fiddle with controls, et cetera. And then he writes up a series of totally worthless “reviews” detailing his actions. This is not “[going] out of his way to do his job,” which is parking a car in a secure location; this is taking liberties with other peoples’ vehicles.

This has changed, see this thread

My general Manager at work had just came back from vacation and I had let him know about my VAR threads, and wanted to know if it was alright to look under the hood, like they do in auto magazines and tv. He said that, although he trusts my actions as honorable and benign, others who read the threads may draw the wrong conclusion about valet drivers in general taking untoward liberties, so pleas no more looking under the hood.

Looks like he was right on about people drawing the wrong conclusion.
Sorry Stranger but both the East German and French judges are only giving you 3.5s on this one.

[Omegaman]

@Rick

Having moved a couple of zillion cars using just floor jacks (not nearly as upscale as GoJacks) I can tell you this is not as big a problem as you might think.

WORD ! When you have to do something, it’s O so much easier, than when you want too.

[Stranger_On_A_Train]

@Rick

Sorry Stranger but both the East German and French judges are only giving you 3.5s on this one.

Damn the French. Just when you think they’re on your side, they go and stab you in the back, or sell Exocet anti-ship missiles to your enemy, or fart in your general direction. I hate those guys, the bloody swine. The problem is they make such good wine.

Stranger

[richardbterror]

@Stranger On A Train

Which indicates that he does not know what he is going. As with begging medical or legal advice, this is really something one should learn by immediate direct example from someone who does know what they’re doing, rather than asking questions on a message board. And again, before one starts lifting up and moving someone else’s vehicle about, one should probably have the financial and liablity protections. As for breaking into a vehicle and bypassing the ignition, I’m pretty certain that if this is done without legal writ or under the direction of a police officer, it is illegal, regardless of where the individual in question parked the car. Whether he damages it or not, it’s not a “no problem”; it’s a amateurish, overreaching valet. There’s likely a reason the dreaded management does not provide tools and equipment for doing this.

Stranger

Well a message board is probably a good place to start trying to find out what you don’t know, such that you can go and do more proper research right? A good place to find out what you need to be aware of and where you need to start finding more information? Its should be a good FIRST port of call, but should never be used as a last port of call?