You can’t be serious. You and foolsguinea are just saying ridiculous things to keep the thread going. It’s all you got left I guess.
How poor are you that you believe Obama and Clinton are of upper-class background?
The reason for Clinton’s success is because, apparently, the Democratic base is made up of liberal people who don’t shit themselves over Wall Street and capitalism.
What?
You have a very interesting idea of what constitutes “upper class.” Bill Clinton certainly was not upper class by any reasonable standard. Neither was Obama. Neither was Iimmy Carter. In what sense was Michael Dukakis upper class, or LBJ? Hillary Clinton herself certainly did not grow up as one of the elite. JFK I’ll give you. Gore, okay; Kerry, that’s fine. But it’s just incorrect to say that the Dems draw their nominees from people with upper class backgrounds.
Was joke. Popular demagogue disliked by Republican Party establishment may not be prevented from getting nomination, etc. etc.
Bill isn’t, he’s a hillbilly, but Hillary is a Wellesly woman, upper-middle at the very least. And Obama’s Mom was of an Old American family, and not a white-trash Old American family. (His Dad was a Kenyan goatherd, but played little role in his son’s life.) Apart from Bill, the lowest-class person who has sought the Dem nomination in the past several cycles was Dennis Kucinich (who as a child spent some time living in his family’s car – not even Biden can claim that), and he didn’t get very far (though that was because of his politics, not his class background).
Please elaborate how you see Ann Dunham being of “upper-class background”.
In case it helps, “not white trash” is not the same as “upper class”.
Her mother was a bank vice-president, who raised little Barack for much of his childhood and paid his way through Punahou School. That may not be upper class, but it’s at least comfortable.
How soon we forget John Edwards, son of an itinerant textile mill worker and a mail carrier.
Or George McGovern, son of a small-town pastor whose salary was often given partly in food items rather than in cash.
Or Hubert Humphrey, whose father owned a small-town drugstore that barely made it through the Depression.
Or Jesse Jackson, born to a 16-year-old in Jim Crow South Carolina; his adoptive father was a post office maintenance man.
I suppose in comparison with these candidates (two of whom were actually nominees) the upbringings of HRC and BHO seem pretty princely (you did say “upper class,” not “upper middle class,” btw). But I’ll say it again: if you think HRC or BHO qualify as “upper class” you have a very odd idea of what that phrase actually means.
Was Jimmy Carter born into the aristocracy?
I brought him up above already. But clearly the answer is yes, he was, because except for Bill Clinton and Dennis Kucinich, they are all upper class, apparently by definition.
You’re acting like campaign organizations have never used the name of their candidate before.
Are there rules against that where you come from?
I don’t recall Hillary supporters embarrassing themselves like this last time around.
And so you did. I think the inability to see how many of the elected officials came from middle class or poorer backgrounds, are academics, are social justice warriors etc are attempts to somehow identify what a Progressive movement or party brings to the table, but the answer is pretty much “Nothing original or useful”.
What? I don’t get it.
Like what?? Genuine question.
For the record, can’t speak for anybody else on this board or in this thread, I was not a Clinton supporter in 2008; I voted for Obama in the primaries and spent several days working for Obama in the general election in PA, as I did in 2012. I never had any particular difficulty with Clinton supporters (which included my wife) in 2008, except a minor beef at how long she continued her campaign when it seemed quite clear that she had no shot at catching up.
I knew plenty of Wellesley women when I was in college, and none were upper or even upper middle class. I’m sure there were plenty of such at Wellesley, but you didn’t have to be one to get in, or even to pay for it back then.
BTW, let’s not forget Harry Truman, also not exactly of the upper class.
Like Bernie supporters are doing this time around.
Ah, got it. Thanks.
Guess I’m off the hook, then… 
This is getting irritating. Somehow it’s ok for Tea Partiers to show up at rallies with guns, and lead loud and boisterous protests that include gems like, “Keep your government hands off my Social Security”, but it’s not OK for the Left to exercise the same rights.
Grow up. Civil disobedience and protest are part of our system.
I meant stuff like this ridiculous OP.
The OP is his own special kind of dumb. He has a habit of saying stupid things. Really stupid things. I’m just glad this rant wasn’t antisemitic or otherwise offensive.