Enough with the fucking troll respawn already!

Which, in itself, is not entirely inaccurate :smiley:

I, too, support the DNFTT Movement from now on. If it weren’t for Euro 2000, I’d even place it in my sig, but fuck it: football is more important than troll-hunting. Y’all can amend your sigs if you wish, of course :wink:

It’s gonna be hard though, and I’m going to need other means to let off steam. I might have to resort to calling you guys names. But I’m sure the goal justifies the means, you asskissing hamster squickers!

When some idjit starts trolling, I would love nothing more than to see their IP address.

From there, you can resolve a DNS, contact the administration, and get said troll’s account yanked. It’s easy to do. Done it a hundred times in IRC for DOS attacks.

I digress.

I will be happy to avoid posting in any troll’s thread, save for DNFTT.

Mojo asked:

No, said about a very small-minded man in the same social organization as we are (but it applies to Phelps as well).

Esprix

Um.

I think Daniel~ is onto something here, that we should avoid posting to obvious troll threads.

However.

I was actually thinking of starting a thread myself to address this, specifically to talk to the three ladies who seem to get the most kick out of lambasting trolls in the Pit (you know who you are :smiley: ), to try and get them to quit feeding the trolls, and to suggest that we all cooperate to shut out all trolls and sock puppets. But.

But I couldn’t decide which forum to post it in. And, while I was mulling this over, I realized one big problem with this sort of cooperative venture is, pasting the label on the Troll. What happens if we get hold of an innocent newbie who really does just happen to make his debut in the Pit? Maybe somebody who’s been lurking for a while, and is really, really pissed off by something Coldfire said way back in March.

Or maybe somebody with an admittedly warped sense of humor who picks a user name to play off another user name, but not necessarily being a troll about it. And unwittingly walks into a full-bore SDMB shitstorm mounted by enraged Dopers who Have Had Enough.

See, the thing is, while I was considering all this, I realized that as of this writing, I can name at least 4 posters who have joined in the last week or two who I had pegged as sock puppets, but who, after an initially bumpy takeoff, have turned into Actual Real People. (I’m not naming any names, because that’s like saying, “I thought you were a troll when you started.”) And I find it hard to believe that all 4 of these could be manipulated by the same person, not unless we’re talking about a serious multiple personality disorder here.

So. I haven’t been feeding trolls myself anyway, lately, (at least not very much :smiley: , besides it was late, I was sitting here waiting for somebody to get home from her hot date, my judgement was clouded) so I’ll honor the DNFTT request, but I would like to reiterate that the best thing to do if you think you’ve spotted a sock puppet or troll, is to e-mail a mod or admin. Let them deal with it. Life’s too short, there are lots more interesting threads to read.

PATHETIC!! I mean, really, I thought my life was a little dry!! I support the DFNTT thing, but EVERYONE needs to know. Not everyone comes in here and this thread could get lost, shouldn’t we move copies of this to other areas so it it is noticed by everyone.
But, on the other hand, a DFNTT is a recognition to the idiot and will that be enough to get him/her off??

Great. Now the little fuck is hauling months-old threads back up to the top in MPSIMS. Ones started by the new mods.

Everybody check the motherfucking dates before you post. You’re probably responding to something UncleBeer or Alphagene wrote back in October.

I guess I’ll honor the DNFTT deal. We could snoball the thread by all responding with DNFTT. Is that a good idea or not?

Hmm.

I’ve always seen the posting of “DNFTT” as just as baiting of a troll as any other response to his/her/fuckhead’s messages. A troll posts in order to get a response. Stating “DNFTT” is a response, and sometimes encourages trolls to keep posting and pushing to see how often they will get “DNFTT” posted after them, or to whine and complain about how they’re not really trolls, but this big, bad, message board and its big, bad, evil, membership keeps them down.

Which is laughable, when you think about it. Don’t like the people here? Then why the fuck do you you want to post here in the first place?

Anyways.

My general strategy has been this- when I run into a new poster who seems a bit off- blatantly ignoring rules (written and or unwritten), or amazingly familiar with the lives/actions/attitudes of other posters (especially of other trolls), I make a snap decision- “Asshole or troll.”

Assholes are usually those who have made serious mistakes and carry with them a serious attitude problem. However, with discipline and the occasional sharp smack on the nose, assholes can be made to realize the error of their ways. Assholitude is merely a temporal quality for many of them. Filthy, for example, was not a troll; he was just someone who did not realize that there were different forums and what those forums were for. When he was told the error of his ways, he initially got confused and hostile; but since, he has calmed down, and thus his Assholitude has been removed. WebMasterUSA was also an Asshole in posting a “Moderator! Close this thread!” message every three minutes. When I- mockingly and patronizingly- explained the error of his ways, he got pissy and left, and remains an asshole in my eyes.

Trolls are completely different creatures, though. While assholes dislike being mocked, trolls enjoy any attention whatsoever. Assholes can be taught the errors of their ways; trolls actually reforming themselves and turning into valuable regular posters are very rare indeed (a case like Silo’s is unlikely to happen again for years).

Ergo, I don’t post a single thing in response to someone I believe to be a troll; I think even the warning “DNFTT” is enough to get a troll his/her/fuckwit’s jollies. Rather, should you see someone actually making the mistake of trying to have conversation with a troll, e-mail them or post a message to them in another forum, such as ATMB or MPSIMS with your evidence and rationalizations.

But if I think the person in question is an asshole, I mock.

At worst? I ignore assholes (not necessarily a bad idea), and occasionally give a troll some chow.

Duck Duck Goose being a newbie myself I would hate to slam somebody just for posting in the pit. I don’t think anybody in this thread intends to post DNFTT to every thread started by people with low post counts.
Some threads are very obviously just people letting off steam or fighting a fight that they think is worth fighting. Obviously these posters have has much right to say what they want to as anyone else.

It’s the threads that are obviously bullshit we should boycott. I really hope that no real poster is affected by this but very few things are 100%.

Sorry guys, but I just can’t promise not to post to these idiots. But only because I hate to break promises.

I will try to keep it a minimum though. That will just have to do. At least till my next bout of PMS kicks in, then all bets are off.

Sorry.

It’s been my own policy here to ignore, or at least not post to the obvious wankers, although I’ll admit to an admiration of the prowess of Coldfire, Ayesha, Veb and others in their troll-slaying abilities.

John’s distinction of asshole vs. troll is a good one. It doesn’t take too long to tell. This current yee-ha, though, is just a waste of space. Perhaps there could be some sort of icon that lets us know before you even look at a thread that it’s a DNFTT alert. The locked thread icon gives a suggestion of that, but there are other reasons to lock a thread. After a DNFTT alert, just don’t view the thread. No troll satisfaction of a view count. Although my curiosity usually wants to rubberneck at the scene of the wreck!

There’s me 2 cents.

The DNFTT plan is a good idea, and will probably act as a deterrent to the more casual trolls. But the determined ones will just keep it up until they get a rise out of somebody. After all, it’s what they thrive on.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Hiding a troll or two of your own? Think they are getting drown out? Could be.

Lock 'n Load, Alpha :wink:

Ackkk! You done did kill me you done did!

I’m no more.

Kaput.

Disembodied.

Except, that Coldfire here can’t figure out when to quit, so I guess if he still wants to play, I can’t deny him, can I?

Oh, for Coldfire’s sake.
Trollie… go away. Just go away. You bore me…

Oh, wait…

DNFTT

Authenticating post. I did what you see above.