Enough With the Pork Products Already!!!

This is too mild to be a real Pit rant, and I do like my mother-in-law (sick, I know, but true), but this sort of really puzzled and annoyed me.

My MIL is vegetarian because she just doesn’t like the taste and texture of meat. It’s not a moral or ethical or religious thing, just a taste preference. Given that she’s in her late 60’s I’d say she’s more than old enough to make these sorts of choices and we’re all cool with it.

Now, the husband and I eat meat. Not lots and lots of it - in fact, we might go a couple days without it and not miss it - but we enjoy it just as we enjoy many other foods. So, at MIL’s house a meal is typically several vegees and what is essentially a meat side dish (sort of the reverse of the typical American diet) and everyone just chooses what to put on their plate. This way, there are a couple choices for everyone, even if there is usually something on the table each person doesn’t care for.

However, the MIL, in an effort to be a good host, does cook meat. And I sort of wish she wouldn’t. I mean, I appreciate the love expressed there, but, well, it can be awkward.

Mind you, I did enjoy the polish sausage we had with the carrots, zuccini, and sauerkraut. And she’s good with eggs. And bacon. But the pork loins the first night…:frowning:

First of all, I’m not a big fan of pork. I didn’t get much pork growing up (half the family is Jewish, which might explain that) so I never acquired a taste for it. It usually tastes a little too greasy for me. Except the pork loins she cooked the first night (just for us) weren’t greasy. I could have used them to re-sole my shoes. I think I would have preferred greasy. Yes, I know you’re supposed to cook pork well-done, but well done comes before “suitable for roofing material”.

I cut it into very very small pieces (I knew that portable minature chain saw would come in handy one day) and choked it down. Truth is, I’ve had far worse culinary experiences and I could manage this out of politeness.

There’s this weird equation of pork=meat, meat=pork in her mind. Well, weird to this Yankee. I don’t know if this is a cultural thing or not. They do seem to eat more pork in the South, but that could just be the family I married into. EVERYTHING gets flavored with bacon grease. Cooking eggs? Fry bacon in the pan first. Cooking vegetables? Fry bacon in the pan first. Making muffins? Where’s the bacone grease from yesterday? Don’t have bacon? Fry bologna in the pan. Or Spam. Or some other pig part.

Actually, as a flavoring element it’s not bad at all…

Well, mid-way through the week we went to the Food Lion to re-stock. I usually cook at least one meal/dinner while we’re there (this time it was rice, raw vegges - cucumbers, carrots, green peppers - sauteed mushrooms, and a side of beef-and-oninons in brown gravy). I’m looking for about a half pound of cubed beef, rummaging through the packages. While I’m doing this, MIL keeps coming to me with

“How about some pork loins? These are nice looking, aren’t they?”

:dubious: This from a woman who doesn’t like the taste, texture, or appearance of meat?

“How about a nice pork chop? You like pork chops, don’t you?”

Me: “Well, I thought beef might be a nice change”

“How about this?” Another package of pork products. When that didn’t convince me, she shared a rather lurid and colorful rumor involving the Food Lion meat packing plant, rats, animal waste, maggots, and worker injuries. Apparently there’s this disconnect, or she thinks the pork processing is done in a different building than the beef.

Look, it’s this weird thing with me - to me, raw pork smells entirely too much like dead human flesh (never mind how I know how that smells). I just can’t handle the smell of raw pork - which might be why it’s the only meat I prefer to eat well done. I can’t handle cooking with it. It makes me gag.

That’s the other thing - I prefer my meat very rare. Like, still bloody. I even eat fish raw (mmm… sushi…). The only pork I enjoy eating is bacon - which is so modified it doesn’t much taste like dead pig anymore and an occassional slice of ham. Frankly, I would have been much much happier with her offering me fried Spam for dinner the first night than pork loins. I realize that’s Food Heresy to a lot of people, but fried spam has this sort of ham/bacon flavor going, which is tasty in moderation.

Anyhow, in addition to the “Would you like me to fix you three tons of food? You haven’t eaten in almost an hour!” effect generated by the presence of parent and adult child, MIL keeps pushing the pork products.

She did that with the sandwhich meats, too. I picked out a small package of beef bologna - the husband prefers it, the regular pork-based bologna sometimes upsetting his stomach. She took it out of the cart and replaced it with pork bologna. “Here, isn’t this better?”

Me: “The husband prefers the beef bologna.”

Her: :confused: Waves pork bologna package “But this is bologna”

“So is this.”

Her: :confused:

While we were staying at her house I kept muttering how much I liked the poli sausage. Maybe we’ll get more of that next time, rather than shoe leath-- >cough< pork loins.

OK, it’s not the worst thing in the world, and as I said, I’ve had far worse food issues to deal with in the past, but it was just a little bizarre.

Waiting for lno to show up to show you the error of your ways :wink:

I guess you just have to allow her to have her little misconceptions and weirdnesses. You can either not go shopping with her, or else make a game of it in your own mind. After all, if you’re paying for your groceries, you have the final say, and it might make it less annoying for you to count how many times she waves a pork product at you.

As far as eating the shoe leather she prepared at her own meal, why did you even bother? I don’t quite understand. I mean, you said you don’t require meat at a meal, and have vegetables-only meals yourself. So why did you feel it necessary to choke down ANY meat she prepared? Just decide you’re going to go vegetarian for that meal, as well, and enjoy whatever is there besides the overcooked pork.

C’mon lno. There’s a heathen here in need of your tutelage.

Oh, I remember how you found this out. And I am still amazed that you AND your husband lived through that.

My sympathies for your diet at her house, though. Every time I stay at my parents’ house, I’m reminded of why I learned to cook at an early age.

You are dead to me, Broomstick.

Well, not really. I can understand it, after the pork shoe leather … just give well-prepared piggy another chance? For me? And all of the little dopers looking up to you for guidance?

Well, there’s something to be said for respecting preferences/dislikes like that - my mom grew up on a farm where they had a lot of beef, to the point where she got sick of it and wanted pork to eat. Pork chops predominated over other meat cuts at our house, to the point where I got sick of pork.

I’m a vegetarian now, though, but I do cook meat for my husband. He never thought he’d like pork loin very much (not being a big fan of pork), but after I roasted one for him, he was amazed at how much he liked it and has asked for it a few times since.

Maybe you need to get your husband to speak up in favor of beef - she might listen to her son more than her daughter-in-law, I hate to say. Also, being veg, she might have forgotten how to cook meat properly - fortunately, I haven’t done this (yet).

Mm.

Pork.

Why did I eat the shoe leather pork?

MIL had made it just for us and, truthfully, I was hungry. Refusing the first thing she offered (even badly cooked) didn’t seem diplomatic. I mean, it wasn’t toxic, just the texture of wood. Normally, when at MIL’s I do the cooking of meat, if there is any - she was being nice by having something hot for us when we arrived after a 14 hour drive (we had to pull off the road more than once due to storms with wind, rain, lightning, and hail).

Clarification of pork status in my diet

While I would never buy pork for myself, or cook it for myself (unless it’s bacon or sausage) I am not inherently against pork. I’ve had some tasty pork productions. They’re not my favorite, but they were moist, tender, flavorful, and yes, even enjoyable. I’m sure if a Master of Porcine Culinary Delight such as Ino were to prepare a masterpiece I would enjoy it. Unfortunately, my MIL does not know how to cook pork in this manner. Or any meat in this manner.

Actually, I love a lot of sausage that does have pork - like hot dogs. Real hot dogs have pork parts. Maybe I just don’t like the flavor by itself, but as part of something else.

Why I went shopping with the MIL

I have multiple food allergies. It’s far safer and more practical for me to go to the store with her to read labels on items than to attempt a comprehensive list of everything I can’t have. Especially since companies so frequently alter their ingredients. So yes, I do have to go to the Food Lion with MIL. Mind you, none of this turned into an argument, it’s just that we come from two different American cultures and backgrounds and I’m sure she finds me just as puzzling at times as I find her.

Geeze, Broom, you’re just bound and determined to get on LNO’s (not INO’s) bad side, aren’t you. :smiley:

:smack: Damn fonts! You’re right, it’s “lno”, not “ino”.

Apologies.

For some reason this reminds me of my great-aunt who wanted to take us out to eat when we were passing through New Mexico on our way from AZ to FL… when she found out we were vegetarians, she suggested Luby’s. You know, the cafeteria. “They have lots of vegetables” she said. We said that pretty much any Mexican, Italian, or Chinese restaurant would have a good selection of things we could eat, but she insisted “Oh I don’t know if we have any vegetarian oriented Mexican (etc) restaurants around here…” She just couldn’t conceive of the idea that regular restaurants do in fact have vegetarian food.

Not sure why this reminded me of that, but it did, and it was short, so I went for it.