Enterprise: Damage

Big “eh” from me on this one.

I appreciate that they’re really trying to figure out the characters’ internal conflicts. Forcing Archer into a choice between completely unpalatable alternatives is a good move, but I think it was narratively mishandled. First, since we meet the V-heads and then they leave, we know they’ll need to come back, so there’s no suspense waiting for Archer to make his decision; it would have been much more shocking if he’d decided on the spot while they were still docked together the first time.

Also, he isn’t trusting his own crew, which is taking us into Harry Potter “things get bad when people don’t tell each other the complete truth” territory. Instead of agonizing internally and barking at Malcolm et al. when they question his orders, it would have been a lot more dramatically interesting (not to mention true to the setting) to have Archer simply tell his people what he wanted to do. “I have decided we have no choice but to steal the warp coil. I am aware this is an act of piracy. I am aware this is a criminal violation of an innocent vessel, and I fully expect to be court-martialed for it. However, I cannot live with the alternative, while I can live with being prosecuted if it means succeeding at our mission. But I can’t make that choice for any of you…” And then each individual gets to decide whether to participate or sit out. That would have been an interesting debate.

I also don’t find much value in T’Pol being a dirt-junkie. It’s artificial conflict, and it doesn’t inform the character. It’s an external influence, not an intrinsic characteristic, which to me has been the greatest failing of the show’s character development all along. In other words, once we get the monkey off the Vulcan’s back (or the horse out of her spoon, or the dragon out of her steeplechase, or whatever the kids are calling it now), she’ll be Back To Normal and everything will be hunky-dory. The writers/producers have not shown willingness to build these problems directly into the characters, which as I have said before turns them into pleasantly blank action figures; it’s as if the show is afraid of making somebody unlikable and thus doesn’t take any risks with them. Somebody above brought in Jack Bauer for comparison, which I think proves my point completely. T’Pol’s apparent addiction has nothing to do with who she is as a character and is thus a waste of narrative effort. (I also didn’t much care for the distorted point-of-view scene illustrating her withdrawal; I thought it went on far too long, well past the point where we got what was going on. And the giant French-press looking superhookah was just dumb.)

The scripting, also, continues to be clumsy. There’s no rational reason that V-head vessel would be in the area conducting surveys without having been harassed by Xindi warships all the way to the location, other than narrative convenience. There’s no rational reason the Xindi council would have called off the attack and let Enterprise go free, with their captain no less, merely on the suspicion that things may be more complicated than they appear. At the very least they would have boarded the ship and taken everybody into custody, with the small concession of keeping the reptilians at a distance from the prisoners. Also, it completely beggars belief that Starfleet EVA suits would be so fragile that a three-meter fall would dislodge a critical component like that, except, again, for scripting convenience. I’m starting to feel patronized, a bit: “We need danger here! Ignore the fact that it doesn’t make any sense, just feel the danger! Okay, now we need a positive reversal and an escape from the danger. No, this doesn’t make any sense either; don’t worry about it. Just feel happy that the crew is safe now.”

And yeah, the preview for the climax they’re heading toward doesn’t look very promising. More of Braga’s empty mindfucking, a la Time Squared. That stuff rarely works; occasionally you get a really kickass scene, like that thing at the end of Parallels where duplicate-Riker is ranting about “the Borg are everywhere!” which rescues a mediocre episode, but more often you get dreck like Remember Me.

I did kinda like the scene where Mysterious Alien (who reminded me a bit of the sidekick in Last Starfighter, plus boobs) visited the Xindi council; the rationalizations of all the behind-the-scenes machinations were pretty solid (“I have preserved your authority”), and for the first time I can recall show a character whose motives aren’t completely obvious. I’m legitimately interested to find out who this alien is and what’s going on with her (him/it?).

So, after a couple of not-too-bad episodes, I’m still not seeing any indication that the writing is being lifted from the quagmire of sloppy plotting and weak character development. But as I keep saying week after week, it’s so close.

It’s just such a corporate product: safe, middle-of-the-road, motivated more by a desire to protect and insulate a moneymaking property and less by a desire to tell good, interesting stories. Basically, they just need to grow some balls, y’know?

Class, raise your hands if you think it is Future Guy or one of his minions.
Was Archer hiding his intent from the crew? They had to know about it for the raid and to attack them as well as install the warp coil. “Oh. Santa brought it to us” wouldn’t cut it. Nor the Macabees, for that matter. :slight_smile:

:eek:

raises hand

The more I think about it, the more I dislike T’Pol’s “I wanted to have emotions” shindig.
Surely they could have found something else to make her seem more “human”
The whole thing is just too reminiscent of Data, and to a lesser extent Seven.

>>There’s no rational reason that V-head vessel would be in the area conducting surveys without having been harassed by Xindi warships all the way to the location, other than narrative convenience.

Preach it, brother!

There once was show about space flight

That tended to have lots of fist fights

Panda they added

And CGI matted

But they still couldn’t make the scripts work right

Wonder if Kn(*)ckers still hates Fish Lips Baker?

I was a little disappointed. The ship escapes not because they are clever, or brave, or smart, or sneaky, or prepared. They’re just… let go. Dull.

Archer escapes… same way. Duller.

And the moral question this episode? The one that is supposed to show insight into the characters, and could have provided lots of plot? They ruined it with a false dichotomy. What, the only choices are to let the alien ship go, and fail, or to attack them? How about:
[ul][li]In exchange for what we’ll give you, please take these members of our crew to get a warp coil.[/li][li]Let us borrow the warp coil for days, while you’re exploring locally.[/li][li]We need to be at location in 3 days. Please take some of us there, while the rest of us stay here and work on repairs.[/li][li]Can they even try to have one ship tow the other in warp?[/li][li]Shouldn’t they have spent more than 2 seconds of dialogue explaining their exact situation, and why it’s important to them? I mean, heck, I wouldn’t have been convinced by Archer, either. He should have tried.[/li][/ul]

But no, it was: Try halfheartedly to have them give up their warp coil for little reason. Don’t try anything else. Then have second thoughts and attack them.

The moral dilemma would have worked better for me if I had felt they tried harder.

And the captain of that other ship? “That Earth ship is coming up, and not answering our hails.” “Hmm… they don’t have a warp coil. Before they shoot at our engines, let’s go to warp 1 for about 5 seconds, and put some distance between us they can’t make up.”

Sheesh.

Some salty chocolate balls…

I like your prose style. I thought with all my comments and innuedo that, to make it readable, I needed to be terse and use the list format. Prose is more inviting and not as intimidating as I thought. Thanks.

To read Braga’s chat you would wonder in what universe he lives. If he considers that they are doing good character development and that it is hard to juggle multiple storylines, I’m afraid that he is doing the best he can do. It seems Berman’s desire to branch out from Star Trek is letting the reigns slip into Braga’s hands. Roddenberry picked Berman, not Braga. Unless Berman steps up or new blood is infused, I worry about the future.

As for Braga’s storylines - we’ve pooh poohed his works. He has produced some nuggets, but overall its kindof a waste of characters. A watery product of ideas based on time-travel is not what we want. We have probed into his ideas but they sometimes appear vacuous. Perhaps we need a deeper probe into his tales - to determine where he nourishes his ideas. Maybe then we can dig out something that’s bugging him.

Consider, without violently rearranging the furniture, her mind meld rape by the vulcan some ime ago. Could that have any bearing on her desire for emotions?

Linking thru to give Samantha the credit. It’s a link to a press release concerning TOS Service pack 1.

Also, must see this! (Direct link) Check out questions 5 & 6.

That is an excellent point. It would explain her desire for emotions. But this all goes back to the writers not understanding, or even trying to understand, Vulcans. Vulcans are not “broken humans.” I never think of Spock as a broken being. I often think of Vulcans as portrayed in “Enterprise” as wanting to express emotions but not being allowed to. That is just faulty writing.

T’Pol liking emotions seems to me like saying “a virgin is raped and then becomes a nymphomaniac because she liked the sex.” That’s too simplistic and doesn’t fit her nature or history. A mind can be shattered and can rationalize, “I was overpowered by it, so I must be that way, so I might as well Act that way.” So, in a human, if they try to suppress emotions, they break because they are denying their nature. Vulcans have changed from their savage days to have this ordering of their minds be their nature. The more T’Pol trys to embrace emotion over logic, the more she breaks.

Spock embraces emotions as an adjunct to his logical nature. It enhances, informs, and broadens. There is no focus for that in the writing for “Enterprise.” Vulcans are just broken humans that need to be reformed. Spock was confused in “Galileo Seven” when he did everything logically and people still died. He had to say that it was logical to embraced desperation and that broadened his options. I think it would be better for T’Pol to face an onslaught of emotions with logic and find that she needs to fit some in rather than resist totally or succumb.

I have no intention of deeply probing Braga’s tail…

Cervaise, I was thinking the same thing on the alien ship and was feeling very unconvinced. Uh-huh, you’re here surveying a gas giant… uh-huh, all peaceful-like and surprised that we just came out of combat… uh-huh, conducting surveys next to one of the biggest Xindi military outposts ever and they haven’t so much as come out to give you an anal probe…
uh. huh.

Also, I was pretty confused at first over Archer getting sent back. My first thought was, “That’s not Archer! It’s a decoy! A simulacrum, or something! A spy!” Then it turned out to really be Archer, and I said… “Uh. huh.”

BTW, I was the one with the Jack Bauer comment, and as a rabid 24 fan, that was my first thought when I realized Archer was planning to attack the alien ship. “They’re trying to make him all Jack Bauer here.” Except it just still feels half-assed… Interesting concept, of course – crossing to the dark side – although it seems to lose the feel that Star Trek has always tried for in the past, including the original. But Jack Bauer doesn’t pull the extreme unless he’s exhausted all other options. As pointed out already, Archer’s attempt to negotiate the trade was totally half-assed. Picard would have found a way to strike a deal. Jim Kirk would have slept with one of their women and weaselled his way into their hearts. Trip would have slept with one of their women and gotten pregnant. But Archer? “Can we have your warp coil?” “Um. No.” “Okay, prepare to be boarded!”

YOU FORGOT JANEWAY!

She would’ve pontificated about using one’s good qualities for an evil purpose or vice versa, all the while getting more and more ramped up on raktajino.

Then, she would assign Harry and Seven to create an alternate reality using nanites and fluidic space where all the rolls are reversed (yes, VOY would make sense and 20/20 would be an American Idol type of popularity contest wherin the most popular story would become Truth).

Having done this, she (Janers) would settle down into a sex fantasfy holo-novel based on The Canterbury Tales.

At the end, the Saurians come and kill everything in The Expanse because it smells funny.

Consider it rather as someone who is seduced and indeed discovers they enjoy sex.
The Vulcans are going through some formative period. Mind melds are taboo. Unlikely, and due to bad writing, but cannon now nonetheless.

12 Easy Pieces - Jack Nicholson said it in the cafe.
“it” was chicken salad. I think.

Do I win a date with the Vulcan of my choice? No wait, nevermind…
She’ll probably want to snort rocks or something.

I’ll take the Rock-o-Matic Blender instead.

I think you’ve got seven too many easy pieces there!

Yup, it was FIVE Easy Pieces. So you both get credit.

“You want me to hold the chicken.”

“I want you to hold it between your knees.”

:smiley:

DSeid, the shower scene occurs roughly 33 minutes or so into the episode, so just run it halfway and watch it from there.

shrug Remember when in Doctor’s Orders Phlox mistook Porthos for an insectoid? (True, T’pol said that a properly trained user could detect the difference, but she was just in his head and is therefore not authoratative)

Maybe it’s some kind of foam insulation. Like on the space shuttle, it can be pretty solid.

Well, in Azati Prime Enterprise reached its current location without being detected (except by moon base alpha, which they destroyed). If the V-head ship passed through the Hypersensitive Detection Grid of Doom, they probably would have been detected.

So every year for eight days, the Macabees rise from the dead and leave presents under good little children’s Chanukkah bushes at night? :confused:

Nothing to add to the conversation (since I won’t see the episode for another month) but I just wanted to say I had a dream about **athelas ** last night.

It was a very nice dream. :cool:

Uhhh…you know I’m a guy, yes?

That said, what was it? I’ve never been Dopedreamed about before…

I just realized something. Remember how Danials said that the Federation is a whole bunch of species allied…Vulcans, Klingons, and Illyrians? Archer raided an Illyrian ship in this episode.

'Twould be great if it turned out that Illyrians were part of the Romulan Empire (it is called an Empire, after all) and figure in the Romulan war. Thus, Archer’s actions in this episode would have consequences later.

My antenna amplifier broke on me this week, so I got a very fuzzy recording, though the sound was fine. I’ll re-tape it this weekend (It was fixed) and give my full review later.