Okay guys, lets all go down to the pawn shop and buy a $25.00 TV.
When the “B&B” screen comes up at the end of TATV, we all scream “YOU SUCK!” and through a big rock, rotten fruit, fire paintballs, real firearms, whatever.
Me, I think I’ll switch the voltage over from 110v to 220v.
They had a chance in the series finale to push the envelope, but instead their licked. When this episode/arc was written/filmed, did the writers/actors know/suspect that the series was cancelled/screwed?
You don’t understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it.
The show could have had guts and talked about “illegal aliens” instead of “unregistered aliens”. They could have addressed all the angles of isolationism, xenophobia, border control, and diversity, evolution and submission. They could have broached genetic manipulation, racial purity, killing monster babies, etc.
And if One More Person starts expositing instead of just talking normally, I’m gunna shove some naquadria up their Jeffries tube. The worst case is when Paxton exposited to his goon about Col. Greene and the Third World War. The goon implied in his response that he knew (and probably lived) the history. Don’t Tell People About What They Already Know! :mad: All they do is stand around, not even doodle on a sketch pad, lift weights, watch Futurama, or do anything to give their characters personality. Weller must have taken cues from Backula (or vice versa). Do you often just stand around and talk without at least a beer in your hand and some Willie Nelson playing in the background?
Anyway, Paxton’s actions are just confusing to me. He’s supposed to be a purist, but he keeps the hybrid baby around. It doesn’t make sense to me. He should kill it. Exposing it as an “abomination” ain’t gunna work because, like he said, “it looks so innocent.”
Chronological Nits…[ul][li]That baby’s ears were more pointed that any I’ve seen. I guess Vulcan babies are born with really pointed ears and then it softens to a mild point as they grow. It could work, but I hope the baby doesn’t role over and poke itself.[/li][li]Isn’t that medical building the same one in which Soong was imprisoned?[/li][li]The big multi-species meeting was technically disappointing. The light was very bright everywhere, the air/temperature necessarily the same, and the chairs and table were human norms. Granted you don’t have to have mud pits for the Tellarites, but while Shran is used to high temperatures, not all Andorians should be comfortable in our range. They need to have different chairs for different physiologies, varied lighting (how about blacklights), monitors for aliens with differing atmospheric requirements, etc.[/li][li]They tried to vary the human civilian clothing from “our” time but that really retro look is difficult to believe. Maybe, since they came off of a World War awhile back and lately the Xindi “conflict”, it spurred more traditionalism - evidenced by this rise in xenophobia.[/li][li]So this sick woman, clutching a coat tight about her, waltzes into what has got to be the most high security area on the planet? :dubious: Oh, and I’m glad they always have just enough energy to stumble up to the main character, and then faint after delivering a criptic message.[/li][li]Trip, “How do you know that?” T’Pol, “I’m Vulcan.” So all Vulcans have a psychic bond with their DNA? “Hi, I’m :dubious:, glad ta meet cha.”[/li][li]Why does Nathan talk to Archer waaaaaay up on Enterprise when they, or at least Nathan, should be at the conference? (Nathan’s in the same suit too)[/li][li]“We can’t afford to operate on faith,” said Nathan (“of the heart.”).[/li][li]Why is Archer even talking to Nathan? He should be working through Admirals in Starfleet. Is he shmoozing for that presidency bid later?[/li][li]Okay, so now Reed’s connection with Section 31 is okay? Let’s just forget about that disloyalty thing. Oh, and did they Have to do fog on the S.F. wharf? I expected to see Reed in a hat and trenchcoat.[/li][li]:smack: And when Reed and WhatHisFace changed positions! That’s just bad drama. No if they indicated they each wanted to shift position to cover themselves and case the wharf, okay, but they didn’t even look around. No, it looked like a cheesy drama element! :([/li][li]Am I wrong or, shouldn’t there be more black and white shadows across the face of the moon? I understand that the illuminated ground is a pockmarked gray, but shouldn’t the refineries cast stark shadows? Or are they kicking up lots of moondust? Or maybe they started the generators and released the air? Also, the dark side of the Earth should be darker, I think.[/li][li]When Gannet said to Mayweather that he didn’t have a decent sized room, that must have been a sexual euphemism, because his quarters are, ahem, extremely generous. ;)[/li][li]And now, why is it that a reporter, ostensibly on the job, gets to roam The Entire Freakin’ Ship unescorted. :eek: Where the frak is Reed?! He should be livid. She showed up at Mayweather’s door alone. Nobody seems to have checked her credentials and her story much considering she’s found out to be a spy later. :([/li][li]Can Phlox know that the baby has Trip’s eyes and T’Pol’s ears just from that DNA sample? :dubious:[/li][li]Ah, Paxton gets an injection. So he can’t just be a human with an isolationist/purist/extremist philosophy. He has to be lying and hiding something so when he’s brought down then nothing he’s said is any good.[/li][li]When Gannet interviews Mayweather on the stroll in the cooridor - that’s good. But I think a good reporter, when having to pan around the backside of an interviewee’s head, does not ask questions at that time. During editing you’ll have to have a shot of the back of the guys head as he’s answering, or you’ll edit out the question/answer and so shouldn’t have asked it in the first place. :([/li][li]The walls of the shuttle pod are too thin.[/li][li]Reed says Khouri was hit by a phase-pistol. Those were brand-spankin’ new, hot off the presses, at the beginning of the series. I suppose they could be more common-place now, but that should trigger bells saying that a Starfleet person might be involved. But I’m sure the writers will just have everyone have phase-pistols now.[/li][li]When they have the next view of the moon, they just reverse the view. Earth is lit on the left. Shadows are correct-ish. Bu wouldn’t it have to be two weeks later if the view of the Earth is lit on the opposite side? :dubious:[/li][li]So, Trip and T’Pol can be given ids and cover as moon-miners faster than Kirk can seduce a guest star?[/li][li]Mayweather finally gets laid.[/li][li]At first it was hokey that Josiah just Happens to show up and recruit Trip. Now it makes sense since Josiah is looking for people and knows who Trip really is.[/li][li]And I was going to write a serious nit about no one recognizing Trip, until Josiah outed him. He and the crew save Humanity from the Xindi and no one remembers his face from the news reports?[/li][li]Ah, Paxton equates Trip and T’Pol to Romeo and Juliet - and we come full circle with everyone in Trek referring to Shakespeare.[/li][li]How is it that Paxton asks for the “reactor status” and Trip pipes up instantly with “You’ve got warp capability”? Why would he assume warp instead of just simple nuclear? :dubious:[/li][li]I loved how the flying mine lands on Mars, sticks out a grip, connects to a pole, and they declare “It’s ours!” That little claw gives you full control and bypasses all security? Sweet.[/li][li]So it’s already mentioned how the beam from Mars to the moon has to go FTL to sync with the subspace broadcast.
How about the fact that orbital velocities and planetary/moonitary rotation make maintaining that beam on target impossible.
And let’s not forget beam dispersion. :([/li][li]Also, note that the entire moon (in view) is lit, but the Earth in the background has a significant shadow. I think the angles would require that our view of the moon show a terminator. In addition, since the beam is hitting on the lit side, Mars would have to be in its orbit on more of the opposite side of the sun from the Earth/Moon system. Right? That just makes the shot longer and harder.[/ul][/li]--------
Next time … don’t make me think about it.
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However, why doesn’t Enterprise just shoot the fraking array? “We’ll be vulnerable to comets!” “Calm down, Chicken Little. I don’t think we’re in immediate danger. Besides, a planetary based array can only shoot where the planet rotates, and that’s not so much, is it? And only when the planet rotates into line of sight. So stop worrying. It was a pork project to begin with.”
This is where I tuned out. Well, not “turned it off,” but “fired up the computer and did other work while the episode played in the background.”
I’ll watch it again next Friday, partly to set up the finale and partly because I wasn’t paying much attention (and it’s not like anything really happened to get me to focus on it). But it was when the woman stumbled in and delivered her Man-Who-Knew-Too-Much message that I knew we were back in the land of sloppy writing and clichéd plot points.
Then later in the evening I watched the repeat of Galactica’s rescuing-Starbuck episode. Man, the difference between these shows is like day and night-as-experienced-by-a-blind-person-sealed-in-a-cement-box-and-buried-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean.
Anyway. Meh. But I only had half an eye on it.
Nice for Travis to get some trim, though. That’ll be a Trek trivia question later. “Scotty is to ‘Lights of Zetar’ as Mayweather is to…?”
Ladies and Gentlemen, they are in San Francisco. The Maltese Falcon was set in San Francisco. Captain Jacobi (Walter Huston, but I will not be led into digression at such a critical juncture) stumbles into Spade & Archer (!) with the Black Bird. Elisha Cook, Jr. played Wilmer in TMF. He also played Kirk’s attorney Samuel T. Cogley in Court Martial.
It it therefore one of those “name dropping” Trek References I continually complain of. Point out.
Yeah, actually, he can. Well, he can determine a ridiculously high probability, if he compares the DNA to our fun couple. But without comparing it, no. So if your question is how he thought of it, since as T’Pol’s doctor, he knows she’s never been pregnant, um…?
As for the rest, valid points you make.
Wow, a pretty good episode! Sure, there were some rolleyes moments (like the nurse stumbling into the conference), but its a good mystery storyline. I guess they’ll do the ending in the first hour on Friday, and then the montage or whatever it is they’re going to do next in the final hour. Whatever…
They’re doing the second half of this Terra Prime thing mini-arc first, and then the weird hybrid finale of ENT Meets TNG.
Hush!
Keep it down.
I had to get Mrs. Plant of the ceiling with one of those Marlin Perkins Tranquilizer Dart Thingies ™
To get zero negative points, while all the other players you’re competing against get 26 negative points.
But’cha gotta be careful. If any of your opponents takes so much as one trick with a heart in it, you’re screwed.
Unless you treat the ST:TOS episode “A Piece of the Action” as canon. In that episode, Kirk was talking about the technology from the time of Archer & Company, and said “They didn’t have subspace radio in those days”.
Archer & Co. were dropping communication buoys to talk to Star Fleet in real time…
Yep. And according to the ST:TOS episode “Balance of Terror”, the treaty between the Federation and the Romulans at the end of the first war – which also happened in the timeframe of Artcher & Company – “was negotiated via subspace radio.”
Both of which blatantly contradict “A Piece of the Action.”
Perhaps Kirk only meant that the particular ship that visited the Piece-of-the-Action planet didn’t have subspace radio in those days. (Maybe because they thought they didn’t need it.)