Let us know if you still hate the ep. once you’ve seen it.
I’m blearing a bit…I may have to go and regenerate in a minute.
I always do. You just never see my opinions 'cause they’re usually swallowed up pretty quickly by highjacks.
Sometimes even in the same post. 
Looking at the preview, it’s not clear that T’Panda does reveal the terrible secrets of Vulcan sexuality to teh humans. She’s coming on to Phlox.
Which is good. I like Phlox, and he deserves some after what he went through this episode. Besides, I never quite bought that the Vulcans would be able to hide such a basic fact about their sexuality from all of humanity (actually, we know they didn’t, Spock is half-human, so a few folks knew, at least). It’s as if humans were shamed into covering up teh fact that our females of child-bearing age bleed from their genitals monthly. It’s not logical to cover up a natural and unavoidable process. I think that it might be an obscure and seldom-mentioned fact, but it would appear in the big xenobiology texts.
This episode was good, but now I am operating under the assumption that this is an alternate reality (created by FC) from the one shown in the previous Treks. It should lead to a much more experienced and bad-ass Starfleet by the time Kirk’s day rolls around, and by amazing galactic asskickers by Picard’s day.
Btw, have they just dropped the “Temporal Cold War” plot? I liked it, but it seems I was the only one. It may be for the best, this show should avoid time travel.
That plot didn’t just have continuity problems, it was incontinent, it shat all over everything.
How or why did the Borg survive in the artic for 100 years inactive? Why didn’t they regenerate? It certainly wasn’t because they were cold. We’ve seen them operate in cold vacuum of space. The artic is a tropical paradise by comparison.
Why would Starfleet care about an Artic exploration team? Why would they be heavily armed?
Why did the Borg wake up when the un-named researcher touched their warp drive? They don’t need external power.
Why did it take multiple weapons hits to adapt?
Oh and my favorite. Why, when Malcolm was being strangled, did the Borg suddenly keel over and die when the Capt unplugged one of the tubes in his head? WTF. “That’s right folks the Borg are no more dangerous than a cheep popcorn popper. You turn them off by unplugging them.”
By the way just a little item for reflection. The word “Borg” is in MS Word spell check. Klingon isn’t. Phaser isn’t. Romulan isn’t. While I’m sure there is some wonderful rationalization for this, I find it odd. I see disturbing similarities between Bill and the Borg.
I haven’t had a chance to see last night’s episode yet. 
Quite fortunately, I was able to tape it, so will be able to watch it later this week, sans commercials. 
The parts that I did see, however, looked quite good to me. I can’t help it, though, I’m just overly excited about the Tellarites next week!
It’s because they weren’t connected through the Collective yet. The Borg on the transport managed to get a makeshift Collective going, but it wasn’t until the end.
It’s not necessarily cold in space. The Earth is in space, and it’s not that cold.
Borg is in Microsoft Word because Bill Gates is the Hive Queen and wants to asimilate us all.
Corel is irrelevant
Linux is irrelevant
Netscape is irrelevant
You will be assimilated
Visa and MasterCard accepted
Well, I still don’t like the Borg, but there wasn’t really a lot of clicking and whirring in this episode; mostly people scrambling around trying to figure out what the hell to do, which is okay by me (I like mass confusion. Reminds me of my life).
So, what have I got to say? Lessee… Beware a whole lot of spoilers below:
I really like Phlox. I think he’s a great character, and I love that he has a personality (unlike so many others). just seems like a really nice guy. We also got to see in this episode that he’s a pretty tough cookie. “Oh… Welp, I’m gonna nuke myself, then you’ll maybe have to kill me. Ya know the drill. Say, if I croak, feed the eel for me, wontcha?”
And none of the sighing and whining that Malcolm always does, when he’s trying to get killed.
At the beginning, I thought they were going to have an alien autopsy and a huge government cover-up. It was looking all X-Files-esque. I can’t decide whether I’m glad or disappointed that they didn’t ultimately go that route.
I liked the defenestration. It was fun. Maybe the best part was that Archer did it without hesitation. “Hey, we’ve got a hatch, let’s use it!” Typically, I’d expect him to have a long soliloquy about how he wishes someone would come up with a directive about when you should or shouldn’t blow Borg drones out into space. So it was a relief that he just went and did it.
The same goes for blasting them to bits at the end. And I liked the big 'splosion. KABOOOM!
So, overall, reasonably entertaining. Clearly, there were some logic/technical/continuity issues, as others have pointed out, but I mostly ignore those and go by entertainment value. Given that, I’ll give this episode a B.
Re-next week: Oh, wow, an episode about a horny, scantily-clad T’Pol. I never saw THAT coming. Anyway, it’ll probably be good for a panda or two.
Love,
Kn*ckers
re: Borg…Starfleet is also in Word. They even capitalize it for you.
Have you fogotten the tribble?
Tribbles are irrelevant
someone please stop me
I really enjoyed the opening scenes.
They should’ve kept this up, make it more like The Thing. Have them disappear, one by one. The last human nukes the place while taking off in the transport.
Last scene: All the disappeared hoo-mahns, now borg, come at him in a Night of the Living Dead type scene… to be continued…
Next ep is all the space chase and fight stuffs.
Woldaben cool
One thing that bothered me was that they say it will take the Borg two centuries to reach Earth…but didn’t they have transwarp technology? I mean, even if the Borg of the 22nd century didn’t have it, the Borgs from the 24th did and these Borg were from the 24th. Surely they could transmit the technical info to the Borg back in the Delta Quadrant?
OK, I was totally prepared to hate this episode on continuity grounds, but ended up enjoying it. Yes, small nitpicks like the drones on the Borgified not adapting while the ones on Enterprise did, but that could have been a mistake in editing. I’ll let it go.
“The cold of space?” Omigod, now I have to throw away my Thermos, because vacuum is now cold?
[pinches the bridge of his nose and closes his eyes]
Alright, I’m back. Loved the Thing-style beginning, Phlox’s slow assimilation, Hoshi’s hesitant but brave moral support, and yes, the tube-pulling made me giggle. I know Phil Farrand is going to scream about in his Nitpicker’s Guide (“Tube-pulling again? AAAAAGGGGGGHHH!”) but he can kiss my hanger deck.
8.5 out of 10.
SLASH, scan back through some of the flotsam and jetsam in the thread and you’ll find the answer to the Trans Warp question.
It was mentioned in the end of the ep that the transmission sent would take some 200 years to reach where ever it was headed. So they could have transmitted the data for transwarp/slipstream tech but it still wouldn’t have changed anything.
Archer & Co. wouldn’t know that.
Q will get Picard to them on time, don’t worry…
I guess I’ll get it, I know where it is.
Me <<Borg didn’t use transwarp until what ep of what series? What race did get it from?>>
Monstre <<Don’t know what race, but first I remember seeing the transwarp bit was when the Borg showed up in that non-geometrically-correct ship in one of the TNG season finale cliffhangers, and Lore had taken over a group of the Borg.>>
Yawn.
If this was the first time we’d seen the Borg — “who are these guys? what’s with the voices in Phlox’s head? what the hell are they doing to the transport? assimilated, wow, that sounds scary” — it would have been intensely cool.
As it is: Seen it.
Okay, the good guys are firing phasers at the trudging cyborgs, and again, aaaaaaaand… there’s the personal force field.
And waiting for the line, waiting, waiting, aaaaaaaaand… “Resistance is futile.” Check.
Fercryinoutloud, the people in this thread could easily come up with a whole season’s worth of original stories that don’t break continuity and that set up the Trek universe for its eventual descendants. Why can’t Berman & Braga and their stable of writers do the same?
Yes, Phlox is a good character. Yes, the art direction occasionally shows a spark of style (the Thing reference at the start, with the camera panning up to show the scientists in the middle of the frozen debris field, made me laugh out loud). Yes, the actors seem to be game. Yes, yes, yes.
But they’re just going through the motions. I sincerely hope they learned something from last week’s ending. That’s what makes the show worth watching.
I repeat: Yawn.
No, no, no. The guys I’m talking about transported over to Enterprise from the modified Earth ship. These guys got hit by phasers, adapted, but the remaining Borg on the modified Earth Ship did not adapt. Maybe just bad editting, or maybe just sloppy writing. Didn’t anyone else notice this or was I imaging things?
Phloxx is the best character. But I did like the fact that Archer finally just went postal on the Borg ship. No whining, just fire away!
One bit of treknobabble that bothered me was one of the scientists detecting “antimatter residue” on the debris. They’re called gamma rays, and they don’t stick around for a century waiting to be detected.
Jimson Jim asked why Starfleet would care about an arctic research team (to the point that an admiral goes on the rescue mission). What I wonder is why they didn’t worry about them until they’d failed to call in for three whole days.
By the way, the first we heard about transwarp was on the Excelsior, in The Search for Spock. “If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a wagon.” I always wondered why all ships in the 24th century weren’t using transwarp engines.