I think you meant to say no amount of surgery will restore your brain function, Clothy.
This is the most lucid and compelling explanation yet. Thank you, BobLibDem, for this excellent perspective.
So what, just bored today? 
You see sex and gender as binary, immutable, and determined at birth. I get that.
There is an awful lot of evidence that your view is incorrect. And to be perfectly honest, I think you’d be much happier on the whole if you worked to overcome binary thinking.
That seems like a difficult argument. Presumably you’re arguing that gender is fixed by biology - a person is whatever gender their body is even if they mentally feel like the opposite gender.
But if that’s the case, then doesn’t changing the body change the gender? If a man’s body is transformed into a woman’s body (by surgery or magic or transporter malfunction) then doesn’t biological determinism say that person is now a woman? Even if they still feel like a man on the inside?
What determines gender? Chromosomes?If so, then all these people are male, since they are all XY.
Wait, does that mean if the one in the middle bottom row gives me wood that I’m sexually attracted to a man!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
“Restore”? Did you mean “start”?
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According to Clothahump, yes.
Thank you very much for saying that.
No, thank you for starting that thread and for being so patient in your posts. It was one of the most worthwhile threads that these boards have had in the past few years.
Well whaddaya know? We agree on something.
Death doesn’t transcend sports? Everybody dies, few people choose to have an elective surgery to change their gender.
Hill was the clear choice. It’s pandering to liberal piety that got Jenner the nod.
No, it doesn’t. If you think it does, go ahead and make your argument, but right now it seems like you’ve joined BubbaDog in not understanding what the phrase “transcend sports” means or the concept for the award.
With your short post you’ve managed come across as an ignorant asshole bigot. Let’s see if your argument for your position can help dig you out of that hole; I suspect you’ll be in over your head before the 3rd sentence.
Everybody dies, athletes and non-athletes alike. Of course it transcends sports. It’s moronic zealotry of the worst kind not to see it.
You’re the one who claims death doesn’t transcend sports. Spare me the condescension you dolt.
Do you honestly believe that people only disagree with picking Jenner out of bigotry?
Yes, death transcends sports. It is, however, not generally considered a “significant or compelling humanitarian contribution.”
What is with people focusing on one part and not the whole thing?
Teaching people to bravely face their demise is at least as compelling a humanitarian contribution as having elective surgery and becoming a cover model.
For very small values of humanitarian, maybe. You’re still omitting “significant” and “compelling.” As has been pointed out, sports people bravely facing death happens all the time. Sure, her situation was tragic, and she was brave to face all that. But that is not enough to make her a recipient for the award.
What’s funny is that there actually is an argument that Hill should have been a contender, yet you haven’t made it. She started a fucking cancer research foundation. She used her playing basketball as a way to make money for said foundation. That’s something that transcends sports. That is something significant. In a year where nothing else had happened, she could very well have been the recipient of the award.
The problem is that there are a lot of famous cancer patients who start fundraising organizations. But Jenner did something very different. And, as BobLibDem said, the trans gender cause right now needs defending. Hill had everyone going along with her the entire way. Jenner did not and still does not. And she’s taken the trans gender cause and put it front and center–a cause that hasn’t had that yet, unlike cancer.
Are there possibly some people who disagree for other reasons? Sure. But nearly every one of them has disagreed by making fun of Jenner’s transition. You can hate Jenner all you want, but you don’t get to make fun of her transition without being labeled as transphobic.
Even the OP, which started out well but ill-informed, eventually descended into transphobia with the pointed use of “he” throughout the entire post. A “bleeding heart” liberal knows better, and everyone else has been using “she” througout. And the OP said she’d read them.