You mean the Robin Roberts who was offered a basketball scholorship at LSU? Who accepted a tennis scholorship at Southeastern Louisiana?
Good job of deflecting my question.
I’ll ask it again, just so you won’t have to look it up.
Do you feel the same about Jim McLaren, Robin Roberts, and Emmanuel Ofosu Yeboah?
All have been faced with disablity in some way but were known for their sports activities. All have received the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.
It’s called an opinion. I have one. If believing someone has shown more courage for their actions compared to another is bigoted go ahead and plant that label on me. I can handle it.
I’m a big fan of Don Cheadle but a bigger fan of Harrison Ford so I must also be a racist.
I’ll pick a Harrison Ford movie over a Sandra Bullock movie - must be a sexist too.
Would rather vacation in the Bahamas than Miami - I probably hate America.
I’m just one big fucking mess here. Give me one of those BF rocks and I’ll tie myself to it and we can heave it into the quarry.
I’m in favor of that.
I believe StillownedbySetters is a woman.
Well, if you’d like we can scare up another rock and some rope.
Do you want to go tandem or sequentially?
I’ll let you go first.
Why do you think he would object to them? They’re all people from sports backgrounds (somewhat tenuously in Roberts’ case) with serious medical conditions, who won an Arthur Ashe award for their non-sports related activities. You know, just like Caitlyn Jenner?
Surprise. Arbitrary awards are arbitrary.
So transcendence is directional? To bring awareness to a situation outside of the realm of sports you can only start from the position of being a known athlete?
If this is a specific rule of the award then I stand corrected.
Exactly! I don’t know what’s more dumbfounding to me – that people are surprised over ESPN giving the award to someone who will get people talking about them, or that people think giving the award to Jenner is a publicity stunt while circle-jerking over wounded troops has nothing to do with publicity.
It was in Post #6 in this thread:
“…presented to the sports-related person(s) or team, irrespective of gender or sport contested, adjudged to have made the most significant or compelling humanitarian contribution in transcendence of sports in a given year.”
Emphasis added.
It’s a sports award invented by and given out by a sports network and you can’t figure out why being (or having been) a sports-related person is a criteria?
Noah Galloway is a personal trainer, competes in Mudder and Crossfit events.
What team did Nelson Mandela (2009) play for?
I don’t think he played for anybody, but he did host the 1995 Rugby World Cup (and used the event as a way to unite South Africa behind their team - up until then blacks in SA rooted against the all-white SA teams), founded the Nelson Mandela Challenge in soccer, and hosted the 2010 FIFA World Cup. So not an athlete but definitely “sports-related”.
I would argue that Noah Galloway has transcended his injury through sport, not transcended sport for a “humanitarian contribution”. I get the sense that you think that we think Noah’s a bad guy or that we’re slighting his accomplishments here. That doesn’t appear to be the case. It’s just that his accomplishments have nothing to do with this award. Would you give it to the guy who found the Higgs Boson if it turned out that he was a serious amateur cyclist?
As I get the same feeling about my comments on Jenner.
I can very well accept that Caitlyn Jenner got this award. It’s pretty damn easy to see.
Jenner brings awareness to the struggles and accomplishment of LGBT people.
Galloway brings awareness to the struggles and accomplishments of wounded soldiers.
Both of them have used sports in some way to highlight these topics.
I think that Galloway has shown more courage by not giving up and by pushing himself to excel in physically challenging sports.
It took no small bit of courage for Jenner to make her decision but I still give Galloway the edge. My opinion.
The difference in courage, I think, is that nobody’s rooting against Galloway or claiming that his actions are somehow “wrong.”
Galloway also didn’t choose to have his limbs blown off in the way Jenner chose to have cosmetic surgery and a dress.
Regards,
Shodan
Or, alternatively, Galloway volunteered for military service, Jenner didn’t choose to have this disorder.
It’s silly, IMO, to compare who is “more courageous” when it comes to this. ESPN made a fully supportable choice, many people don’t agree with it, life goes on.
Yeah, all Oasis ever did was steal from the Beatles.
The issue is that many people think that those with gender issues are just seeking attention. Having this person from a family of attention whores trying to present a positive message might not make anyone more informed, it may just confirm their flawed opinions.
If he can’t be arsed to get the gender of Caitlyn Jenner right, why should we care about his gender identity?
He got the gender right. No amount of surgery will change the fact that Bruce Jenner is a male.