intolerance.
so what do you call those who object to “Christmas” or a nativity scene in public or any of this politically correct rhetoric?
I call it intolerant…
I think the athiests should have a holiday tree without question; gays should have the same rights as straights; all religions should be treated with tolerance and understanding and so on and so forth…
I do not condone hate groups though… Yeah, I’m intolerant to the intolerant. 
In my humble oninion, of course. 
I call it obnoxiously PC.
I’d like to see these people, please.
IME, there’s a surfeit of Christians feeling persecuted* because it could happen in theory (or maybe just a few really loud ones), and a bewildered crowd of secularists going, “What? What nativity? Oh, that one over there? Yes, I guess maybe we should stick a menorah [sic] up on the other side of the square or somethin’. Any jelly donuts left?”
In other words, it’s a manufactured outrage over a problem that’s rarely actually happening. In other other words, PC bullshit.
*Not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s sort of the basis of their religion to feel persecuted, and as a member of another religion that’s so desperate to be persecuted, we’ve made up stories of our historical persecution whole cloth, I really am in no position to be throwing stones here…
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That’s funny.
Yeah, there’s never been any kind of politically correct rhetoric imposed on any of us…
I made it up.
In public, not a problem – supported by govt. money, it’s against the First Amendment, and, yeah, I have a problem with it.
Point taken.
Although I have my own little theory about that separation of church and state thing. I thought it was put in place to ensure we did not have another “church of England” situation over here in the United States. Boy did that ever get bastardized beyond recognition.
I know I have never in my life heard anyone complain about a public nativity scene just hanging out and doing its own thing. I’m not saying there aren’t intolerant atheists in the world… hell, we’ve even got some here.
However, I’ve heard about 15 people this season so far bitch about the uber-offensiveness of the slogan ‘‘Happy Holidays.’’ The implication there seems to be that everybody ought to be celebrating Christmas, and if they aren’t, they damned well better just shut the hell up and worship in silence. That is an extremely intolerant and ugly attitude if you ask me.
apparently you don’t watch the news.
There have been recent reports about santa needing to lose weight; using the term “ho ho ho”, and other idiotic demands on the fat imaginary image of christmas…
mind you, this is a very small example of policial correction gone absolutely mad…
And I’ll post “intolerances” as they happen, so you won’t think it’s imaginary.
Just this morning, they were discussing the Holiday Tree which athiests want to display and there was some objection to it. How could that be? Let them have their tree…
MY question is in regards to the Christmas Lights that every town and city seems to set up. I know, this is not an official endorsement of Christmas by any means; but the fact is, it is a taxpayer-funded expense. So why doesn’t the ACLU go after cities and towns for this egregious violation of the separtion of Church from State? I shudder to think of how our jewish/muslim, athiest friends children will be irreparable harmed by exposure to lights, Christams trees, frost the snowman statues, etc.!! 
because the ACLU is intolerant toward holiday lights?
This is an example of intolerance of religious beliefs/holiday celebrations by the ACLU… Yeah, they’re intolerant.
If I recall aright, “HoHoHoGate” played out in a mall in Sydney, Australia. I live on the other side of the planet, yet somehow I’ve heard about the incident multiple times. Why is that, I wonder?
Ya know I see this claim ALL the time, but what I never see are actual examples of ANYTHING actually being imposed on anyone.
Who is forcing YOU to say “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”?
More amusing to me is that some of the folks bitching about “politically correct” speech have no problem with imposing “patriotically correct” speech.
And just who was objecting to this holiday tree?
Maybe you could point me to the ACLU lawsuit seeking to remove Frosty the Snowman from the public square?
CMC +fnord!
Wait…what?
I’m starting to feel like you’re not reading anything anyone has written, in the news or anywhere else. **ralph124c **asked why the ACLU doesn’t go after holiday lights, and you use that as evidence that the ACLU is intolerant of holiday lights? Read again for comprehension, please.
BTW, the “ho-ho-ho” things was not in the US, it was in Australia, and the private firm responsible for it (a training firm for Santas, not private outraged Aussies), already retracted it, saying it was a big cock-up.
As for your others, yes, cites please. I haven’t heard about them.
oh, so ralph124c was being intolerant? I see. Right, the comprehension thing might have something to do with my ADHD, I suppose. I’m rationalizing. I was really having a blonde moment.
I knew the ho ho ho thing was in Australia… it’s still relevant to mention even if it’s been retracted. it’s just another example of how far things could go.
Sure… I’ll post situations as they arise.
Sorry, you lost me there. I will qualify that with all religions should be tolerated and understood…*unless they have become radicalized.
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So, I will not tolerate Christianity when it’s used to justify the bombing of abortion clinics, the picketing of soldier and Amish schoolchildren’s funerals and the burning of crosses. I will not tolerate Islam when it’s used to justify flogging schoolteachers, forcing schoolgirls back into burning buildings, or to fly jetplanes into skyscrapers.
I’m about as atheist as you can get–I was thrown out of Sunday School at age 7 for asking difficult questions about the stories of Moses and the Israelites–but I can’t say that I’ve ever taken actual offense at a Nativity scene. Of course, every year when I go to a friend’s house for Christmas dinner I always re-arrange the scene on her little display so that Joseph is having unclean relations with a donkey, and Mary has tossed the Baby Jesus onto the ground underneath so as to have the manger for herself (she had a bit too much wine and figured that The Child would be just as comfortable) so maybe I’m not the icon of humorless tolerance.
The whole outrage against the alleged militance of atheists against the religious symbols of the Christmas holiday strikes me as being largely manufactured on the basis of a small minority of grudge-holders. It’s like the National Beef Council accusing vegetarians of attacking their trade; aside from a few sickly vegans and Oprah Winfrey’s attempt to maximize the potential for publicity, no one really much cares, certainly not the vegetarians who are mostly concerned with finding an acceptible vegetable substitute for gelatin to make a tofu-bster in aspic.
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I like to play Kidnap the Baby Jesus. I find some other similarly sized object and replace the Baby Jesus with, say, a Brazil nut or a salt spoon. Let 'em see how long it takes to notice.
Most of my friends frisk me before I leave now. 
agreed… although these instances are not the norm, they are the exception to the rule.
I don’t want my taxes going to supporting any particular relgion, that’s all. If the town sticks a Star of David on top of the creche, it’s just going to annoy me twice as much.
If a private organization puts up a creche on private property, I don’t care if it’s twenty feet high, has one of seven candles lit on successive nights, and has Santa on the roof.
Evergreens and lights are not specific to Christianity, so I have no problem with them, and I think it only polite to refer to them as ‘Holiday’ rather that ‘Christmas’; we all need a bit of festival to get us through the winter.