Evo v. Creat frusteration

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Recentally I’ve been going to a certain message board cough baptist cough. My experiences there have made me overwhelmingly thankful that at least on the Straight Dope Message Board there are intelligent people who know what they are discussing. When you want to discuss the merits of smoking vs. nonsmoking, both sides are brought up and usually any strawmen that are created are exposed and the conversation over the strawman ceases.

This is not the case on certain message boards that have ignorant hypocritical rhetorical bullshit artists on them. Where you try to examine Genesis in order to determine if it is ‘well defined’ or not, only to have it announced that it’s the acceptance of evolution that has blinded my eyes to the truth in Genesis.

I say WHAT THE BLOODY DEAD ANIMAL ANUS are you FUCKING talking about???

Evolution might have a place in the conversation if I was debating how mankind came into being or something similar. However if I’m debating on whether or not Genesis is consistent with it’s self then why the FUCK bring up my acceptance of evolution repeatedly?? :mad:
Can I have a conversation about my beliefs in a non-literal bible and NOT have evolution come up?? I mean for fucksake on a stick!:mad:

To which I sigh and think, well, I’m not dealing with people of the Straight Dope, things are a little different here.

Now you can disagree with me on how mankind came into being, I frankly no longer care if you accept evolution or not-it’s your choice really. But when you take my acceptance of evolution and then smear me with the tag of ‘atheist’ or ‘cafeteria christian’ and then proceed to tell me that I don’t believe in Jesus’s salvation, I say FUCK YOU.

I could believe in hobgoblins who blew out an o-ring creating the universe, you have no right to tell me that I DON’T BELIEVE THAT.

The same motherfucking assbucket then interrupts a thread I created about the futility of debating evo v. creat to tell me that evolution is a fairytale. The piece of animal waste can not contain himself enough to post anything other then his fecally infected diatribe against evolution.

Boy what I wouldn’t give to take a 2 foot dildo, dip it in shit, and ram it down his throat. :smiley:
BTW- I’m not railing against creationists in general, just one in particular. As I said you can disagree with me and I won’t make a judgment call on your intelligence however if you say that whatever my opinion is, is because of my acceptance of evolutionary theory, then I have to wonder.

No, I don’t like CSI because the devil infected me with knowledge of evolution.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

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BTW- I don’t have a problem with atheists, I just believe you can accept evolution and still be a Christian.

Is that so wrong?

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“Frusteration” is my new favorite word.

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Fuck, make that Frustration.

See what it does to a post?!?!?

Damn, now I’m secretly glad I wasn’t ranting about plain old stupidity… :o

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Let me be the first to say:

Band name!

You know, I learned months ago (here on SDMB, actually) that I didn’t care about the Creationism vs. Evolution debate anymore. IMHO, so long as you believe God did the creating, how he did it should not matter. There will be people who say it does, and that you’re distorting the Bible by not being a YEC. I think that so long as you are at peace with your beliefs, who cares what other people think?

Meatros, I recommend that you drop this other unnamed message board cough Baptist cough and spend more time here.

And as for your two-foot dildo, you might want to keep that to yourself.

-LA

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God’s a he?

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Welcome to the evolution tree Meatros. You’re a fruit.

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If evolution is a fairy tale, then creationism is a fever dream caused by a thousand and one disease-ridden ticks chewing on your scrotum.

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Thank you so very much for THAT visual.

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I’m sensing a message from the Lord…yes… someone right here in this room tonight is … TENSE … possibly two people…no… only one … you have… what’s that Lord?.. Yes, God says you have trhobbing temples and a desire to kill… come to the front for deliverance brother or sister…

Oh, and someone else has a bad back, possibly.

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I’m pretty sure that I know which board you are talking about. I post over there pretty frequently (under a different screen name) and often find myself at odds with some of the beliefs expressed. I don’t even bother to argue my beliefs in the evolution threads any more but I still get some amusement out of the creationist arguments.

Personally, I’ve had no problems with reconciling my faith with science. My concept of God is of a being so powerful that He/She can create the world pretty much any way He/She wanted – either by six days literal creation or indirectly via evolution.

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Remember Meatros, the opposite of a ‘cafeteria Christian’ (i.e. one that exercises discernment) is one who orders everything on the menu and attempts to eat it all at once without chewing.

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A few things, seeing as my blood pressure has gone down quite a bit since last time…:smiley:

Only when he messes up. The rest of the time God is a woman…hehehehe… (sorry I had to, what’s more, I’m a guy so go figure).

Carrot-I agree with you. Cervaise-Your point is taken, while at the same time it induces feelings of nausia…

Mangetout-I simply love what you have done to my post. :D. On a serious note, I think you do a great job in your discussions on the matters at hand. I find myself learning a great deal about my faith (and evo) from some of your posts (um…naturally I mean in other threads/MBs, then this one…:D)

clipper-Very interesting…Did you ever run across the man whose username was two first names? (B.R.)

and last but not least Lord Ashtar-As I told you earlier, I’ve found that discussing evo-creation on the board in question is like masterbating with your left hand. Fun for a while, but it will never get you off and it’ll leave you frustrated.
Actually in light of my awful spelling, make that “frusterated”…:smiley:

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:smiley: I guess I’m an apple of evolutionary wickedness…
I just checked the other board, and the Admin has decided that my posts were out of line and has deleted them. I now have a warning…the next time I attempt to call out said jack-hole and I will be banned.

Yet such gems as

,

, and my personal favorite

are allowed to stay.

I think I’ll give up that board and stick with the dope…it’s a lot better…:smiley:

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The problem is that some militant atheists insist that evolution itself is proof that God does not exist. So if the faithful undercut evolution theory, it is believed that they undercut an atheist main tenet.

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Am I the only one who, on seeing “frusteration”, thought of “Gotcha Ya!” ?"

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Rather few atheists would depend on evolution to “prove” (or even demonstrate) that God does not exist. (And the rather small number of atheists who hold that position tend to be about as rational and as well-informed as the credulous believers in the Left Behind series.) Linking evolution to a denial of God is another myth of the Bob Larson/Jack Chick School of Divinity.

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Meatros; you may just have to mutter something about ‘shaking the dust off your feet’ and let them stew in their own juices.

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Hmm. I’ve never met one of these “the TOA disproves god’s existence”-type-atheists. I suspect they are a fiction.
One of the reasons we might want to believe in (or even invent) a “god” is the great explanatory power this seems to provide. As science provides more and more answers there is less and less left to explain.

The way I see it, as an atheist, and evolutionist, the explanatory power of the TOE does away with one of the central mysteries of our existence, a mystery that previously could be explained by the existence of a designing god.

So rather than providing proof of the lack of existence of a god, the TOE lessens our motivation for such a belief.
More damningly, the TOA and other modern scientific understandings drive some pretty long and hard nails into the coffin of the bible’s creation myth. What? Whole books of the bible might be myth or at best allegory?

The bible’s description of the physical universe is tragically flawed, and if the “word of god” can be so inaccurate with regard to simple observable facts then maybe these words don’t in fact have a devine source. If it can be wrong about the physical, why trust it when it speaks of the spiritual?
I thoroughly understand why some bible-literalists, or even non-literalist believers, will see the TOE as a threat.

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A toe is a threat?

Maybe if the toe has a bad case of athlete’s foot and can shoot lasers, but normally, a 1-inch long toe isn’t a threat to creationism.

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