Evolution of Simpsons Characters...

“The Simpsons” has changed over the years. Much like an aged grandparent who goes from refusing the hearing aid and dentures, to refusing to acknowledge that such a need even exists…our favorite characters have evolved.

For example, take Milhouse. In the beginning, he was a nerd, but above all, a somewhat lovable one. After all, he did find “true love” before Bart did (Samantha Stankey, anyone?). And in that every same episode, his friendship with Bart seemed to mean something. He was pretty lame, but not hated.

Now it’s as though the writers are taking out all their frustrations-marital, sexual, job related and otherwise-out on the poor kid. Homer in particular seems to hate him…“Wiggum? He couldn’t catch cooties at Milhouse’s birthday party!” Not only that, but he now apparently is a bed-wetter, who sports Teletubbies underwear, and runs crying to his mother during bad song/dance routines. Oh yes, and he cries at recess. Bart doesn’t even seem to hang out with him anymore…all of his big adventures tend to happen with Lisa now. Well, not counting that three adventures episode.
Then there’s Disco Stu who went from a non-existing entity to a fully developed fringe character. Good for him.
Let’s not forget Homer, either…in the early episodes, he was actually a pretty strict authoritarian dad. I mean, he did lay down the law in the Itchy and Scratchy movie episode, and he was always yelling at Bart. Now it’s Homer with all the wacky adventures and stupid stunts. Whenever he punishes Bart, it’s usually because the boy has been particularly annoying.
Oh, yeah, and Bart doesn’t call up Moe anymore. Hell…Moe has changed. He’s become decidedly more emotionally troubled as the series has progressed.

Any character developments that you dopers have noticed?

Funny. I had the same comments about Milhouse a few months back (in the first thread).

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=178730&highlight=simpsons

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=178667&highlight=simpsons

Barney Gumble is supposedly on the wagon for good.

I’m not sure what direction Lenny and Carl are taking. It can only be good for Lenny after seeing how he lives (remember when Marge became a real estate agent?).

The Mayor is still a sleazebag.

Mr. Burns’ strength fluctuates. In one ep he’s leading the crew in a workout. While, in another, the hand dryer at the bowling alley makes his hand flap as if it’s made of tissue.

Lisa continues to evolve spiritually.

Barney fell off the wagon this season in the Spelling Bee episode.

Eventually, all Simpsons characters will be gay.

Smithers started off as sycophantic, slid into Burnsosexuality and ended up vacationing at an all-male resort. Patty once dated Principal Skinner but has since lost the last remaining vestiges of her heterosexuality. Carl has gone from Lenny’s coworker to his reason for living.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

But does that last part count, since it happened in a Treehouse of Terror story? Or are you referring to another episode?

Marge seems to have changed to me.

She used to be one of the few voices of reason (even if a nagging one), but lately she seems to be as arbitrary as Homer.

The Simpsons worked with Marge there as the straight man, er, woman. Without that the show isn’t as good.

Not a Treehouse of Horror episode. “Principal Charming”. Season 2. Selma suddenly has a burning desire to get married, Homer tries to hook her up with Skinner, but he ends up falling for Patty instead.

Good point. It was a Halloween episode where she made the comment I referred to. But in a later episode, she appears (sort of) on a float in a gay-pride parade.

Moe used to go to homeless shelters to read stories to schoolchildren. Now he’s just one hair short of a sexual serial serial killer. Boo!

How about giving Martin more than one line once every two seasons, bastards?

Sideshow Mel was wrong from day one. After Bob, he should have been a creepy Svengali-type adviser to Krusty. That would’ve been gold.

If the producers have any clue, they’ll pull a DALLAS and make all of the feculent season 11 a dream.

Think of it! Maude alive, No octuplets, no Mel Gibson, Skinner is still Skinner, Simpsons were lame but not terminal, etc.

Ralph Wiggum has…well, there’s just no “nice” way to put it, is there? He seems to have regressed to the mental age of a toddler.

Homer has transformed, to paraphrase a reviewer article, from a Walter Matthau clone into a borderline Sociopath.

Lisa seems to have turned from a naive moralist with a heart of gold, to a preachy knowitall with a heart of brass.

Marge began to loose her mind a few years ago. The process is nearing completion.

Celebrity guest stars almost always appear as “themselves.”

Groundskeeper Willie has…well, some things never change, I suppose.

Ned Flanders started off the series as a sort of “next-door neighbor who’s better at everything than you” nemesis to Homer. After a few episodes he became the super-Christian namby-pamby we know and love.

What I find interesting is how Ned never drinks, yet has a draught beer tap (in his rumpus room) that has been prominently featured in recent years.

Just some examples:

Bart
Then: Standard cocky, wisecracking prankster.
Later: The big hero who always saves the day/busts the case wide open/wins the big one.
Approx. season 7-8: One-dimensional jerk.
Current: A chameleon. Whatever the writers need him to be.

Lisa
Man, you talk about being run through the wringer. I’m not sure the writers ever intended for her to be a viable character, and inflexible preconceptions really, really hurt over the course of 12 seasons. I have a hard time taking her seriously as a PC thug or geek because so much of it is so forced. She’s probably the least realistic character in the entire series.

Homer
Then: Your average doofus.
Later: A doofus who gets into one insane adventure after another and apparently has multiple personality disorder.
I put anyone who claims to have gotten a handle on this guy in the same league as flat earthers and astrologers.

Marge
Then: A bland, sterotypical housewife.
Later: Quite possibly the most irritatingly clueless dolt on the planet. And they call Homer bonehead…

Chuckie (Mr. Burns)
Then: Ornery, senile corporate titan.
Later: Obviously the avatar of some really sadistic god, inasmuch as he’s won just about every contest, raffle, and drawing in the friggin’ history of Springfield.

The Van Houtens
Orignally bit players. Like they should’ve been. Eventually developed into really awkward supporting characters.

Comic Book Guy
Then: Bit player.
Now: The Endlessly Repeated Moronic Catchphrase From Hell.

Abe
Then: Sorta pathetic geezer.
Afterward: Alternately strong and courageous/unbelievably pathetic geezer. Sometimes in the same episode (nb. the Jackie Bouvier wedding ep.).

Hans M.
Originally: Pitiful soul who deserves a peaceful death.
Afterward: Pitiful soul who apparently has more lives than Geese Howard and Dr. Doom put together.

And of course…

Dolph, Jimbo, & Kearney
Originally: Disgusting reprobates who get away with murder and never face any kind of comeuppance for anything.
Later: Disgusting reprobates who get away with murder and never face any kind of comeuppance for anything.
Now: Disgusting reprobates who get away with murder and never face any kind of comeuppance for anything.
Next season, and the season after that, and the next thousand million billion years: Disgusting reprobates who get away with murder and never face any kind of comeuppance for anything.

Some things really do never change.

I remember when Smithers was black!

Ha-ha!

Homer has not evolved.

He has been a lower-life-form from the beginning.

The most startling transformation is that of Maggie. She started out as an innocent baby and has become a gun-toting budding sociopath.

“I’m not a nerd! Nerds are smart.” – Milhouse

Marge comments that Patty had long ago sworn herself to a life of celibacy. That was the setup for Principal Charming in the first place: Selma wanted a man and couldn’t find one; Patty wasn’t interested and got one. That’s a big chunk of why Patty turned Skinner down, the guilt was intense.

My basic comment would be that everybody has become more random. Pretty much inevitable given the age of the show. I don’t even think it’s a bad thing. The really interesting thing, to me, is this - Homer can say or do anything, given a little context, and it’d be in character.
I’m sometimes disappointed with the way they handle Marge, I think it’s made her a bit hollow. But then again, she wanted things to be normal, and stuff has gotten so weird that there’s little else they could do with it.

Milhouse was always a loser. He’s just more of one now. The sexuality thing is really pretty old.

I think the ‘gay’ thing is mostly supposed to make fun of people like us for discussing it endlessly. :stuck_out_tongue: Just my feeling.

Remember that Marge actually started out being a completely irresponsible member of the Simpsons. In the first season, she was the one who got drunk at Mr. Burns’ party. She had several other bone headed antics as well IIRC. But a lot of folks try to forget the first season.

Later she became the adult voice of sanity in the family. Lately she’s gotten a bit more wacky.