So then let me ask you this: Are these soldiers who believe Obama is not a citizen brave for standing up for what they think is right? Are they doing the right thing in trying to make sure the ideals of their nation are upheld by refusing to ship out? Or is it only heroic and brave when you agree with them?
Actually, you ignorant slut, doublewides would be a liberal stereotype. Left wingers are all nice people who are gay married or urbane sophisticates, and only toothless yokels living in trailer parks can be right wingers as they protest evolution and brown people.
And hippies? Fucking seriously? The only political group that is more strongly identified with glib oversimplification is the fundamentalist movement, and I strongly doubt Olentzero just got back from worship.
But you still don’t know shit about my politics. Even though I understand you’re trying to be cool and insulting by calling me a Republican or something, you’re still completely in the dark.
You must be new here. This is pretty much what Der Trihs believes, and he makes no bones about it.
Wait, scratch that. He also believes that right-wingers are made up of evil sadists who want to see women, gays, and minorities die horrible deaths in front of their eyes so they can jerk off while dreaming of going to heaven by stepping over the corpses of atheists and Muslims they have personally gunned down.
As for the OP’s story, the only downside is that it brings the whole citizenship “controversy” back into the spotlight again, with all its “why doesn’t he just release his papers and end it already” and “no smoke without fire” innuendo.
Exactly. The breakdown of that structure was one of the factors in ending the war in Vietnam, and there is no reason to suppose that a similar breakdown in structure would have a different effect on the two current wars. Radicals seeking to end them need to embrace and support the soldiers who challenge the military structure and undermine the military’s efforts to prosecute these two bullshit conflicts. I can only hope there are more like them in the future.
That having been said, it is nowhere near hypocritical to call someone doing the right thing (refusing to fight) for the completely wrong reason (promoting loony right-wing horseshit conspiracy theories about the first Black POTUS) a wackjob. Especially if, as has been revealed, said wackjob is also a Freeper. This moves him solidly into ‘fucknut’ territory as far as I’m concerned.
I strongly believe, and everyone hates me for this view, that it isn’t for the soldier to decide, otherwise he wouldn’t be an effective soldier.
Personal politics should play NO role in the decision-making process of the soldier while in a combat zone. Not reacting to your training in such an area will get you and you buddy killed.
No, it’s not everyone. Just idiots. Of course, if these retards practiced what they preached, they should be out administering some vigilante justice, because the laws are irrelevant if you believe you’re doing the right thing.
Well, either they’re graduates of one of the Academies (like West Point) or else they went through OTC — officer’s training. Every officer is commissioned by the President.
But of the ranks you list above, Major General is waaaay up the ladder from Major. It’s a General with two stars. Lt. Colonel, however, is just one step above Major. Still, it’s above.
No no, what’s even stupider about the story is that it was all a set up anyway. Maj. Cook wrote this to Oily Tits on FEBRUARY 1, 2009…
Then he volunteered in May.
If you want to see some batshit birthers in action, Alan Keyes and Orly Taitz were on Lou Dobbs with guest host Kitty Pilgrim, who took her sweet time laying out all the evidence that President Obama was born in the US, then gave Keyes and Taitz just enough time to make themselves look like absolute fools. Funny stuff. She lays out all the evidence and asks Keyes what will it take for him to be convinced, and he says “Some evidence.” And Oily, well, she just sounds like a loonball.
Well, they aren’t, but they are still subject to the same principles.
Volunteering for the military is a crapshoot in a way. Maybe you’re enlisting for college money. Maybe you aren’t ready for college yet and want to do something different.
Whatever the reason is, you can’t only reap the good and not have to deal with the bad. If a war breaks out while you’re in the military, chances are high you might get involved.
This schmuck volunteers for duty during a time of war, then backs out at the last minute and the reasoning is because Obama is an illegitimate CIC because he isn’t a natural born citizen?
It’s all just pathetically lame. I’d actually have a lot more respect for him if he *didn’t *volunteer to ship out, got called up against his wishes, and defied going based on a strong belief that the war was wrong. But he’d still have to go, even in that instance, but at least it would be a reasoning I could understand.
OK, just to make sure - you don’t think I support this Freeper goon, do you? I should think it’s pretty clear I don’t.
Matthis Chiroux isn’t going. He justified his argument that the war in Afghanistan is illegal in front of a military board and they agreed with him, sending him away with a general discharge from the IRR.
I’m still trying to dig up a cite that shows that a military board “agreed with him” (in the sense that by “agreeing with him” equates to the military board agreeing that the war is in fact illegal).
I think the guy’s a wartime deserter, personally, and not a hero. At the very least, he should have been given a less than honorable discharge. From what I can tell he gets to keep his GI Bill benefits! Why? Maybe it has to do with the fact that he served four years active duty and that the GI Bill money was for that, and not for his subsequent placement on IRR and callup from that status.
Why else would they give him a general discharge from IRR instead of either chucking him into the brig or shipping him out under escort, if his arguments had no merit whatsoever? If he didn’t have a leg to stand on legally, he shouldn’t be a free man today.
And I do think the GI Bill benefits were linked to his Active Duty Service and therefore unaffected by this decision.
Whether he’s a hero or not obviously depends on your perspective - for you, a supporter of the war in Afghanistan, he’s a deserter. For me, who opposes both wars and fully supports resistance to them, he’s a hero.
What a lot of people seem to be missing is that this guy volunteered so that he would be in a position to bring this lawsuit. He didn’t bring this lawsuit because he changed his mind about volunteering. He volunteered in pursuit of this lawsuit, because he’s a Birther and wanted to “make a point”. The fact that he was in communication with Oily Titz (Oh, I love that, Equipoise!) in FEBRUARY, 3 months before he volunteered for active duty, shows that.
If you have a problem with the wars the US is fighting you probably shouldn’t be in the Reserves. Once you are in the reserves its too late to be a conscientious objector.
If it was in 03 then Kudos to Chiroux, if it was in 09, then ‘What a douchebag.’ If he was being deployed to Afghanistan at any point during that then, “What a douchebag.”, if you don’t want to be deployed to a warzone don’t join the fucking military.
If Afghanistan and the bordering area of Pakistan is where the people that organized/trained for and carried out 9/11, the London bombings, Madrid, USS Cole, embassy in Kenya, etc, et al…you don’t think we should go there to try to eliminate them?
This is pretty much what Der Trihs believes, and he makes no bones about it.
And Oily, well, she just sounds like a loonball.