Examining the Effect of Westminster decisions on Scotland

The claim is based on the fact that the first cold brining of Scottish Salmon was carried out in London

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Claiming that the process was inherited from the Jewish immigrants in the early 1800s.

This has been seen as a threat by the Scottish Smoked Salmon industry that is likely to oppose the claim on the grounds of current location of the process.

As I have said- ten year maximum before the dam breaks. Could easily be before if a major disjuncture occurs- federation by ELEV without a moderating system for joint functions, gross mismanagement of Scottish sensitivities or withdrawal from the European Union.

Again, Scotland is only slightly more Europhile than the UK in general so you’re just delusional thinking that’s going to be some flashpoint. There’s plenty of things that could delay the “winning conditions” you’re dreaming of intead of speeding them.

Who said culturally?

100/3 = 33 1/3 years which is more than ANY of the nations that the Wikipedia article cites.

So you’d be wrong.

Yes it is one of the things that makes reading the pjen obsessive threads on the scotland, even when you do not really care about the issue, it is amusing, the misuse of the logical argument phrases and the clear evasions.

Also things like this where in the other thread this concept was completely refuted but in the pjen world it matters only what is believed.

It is somewhat more europhile than the UK as a whole, but does not have a rabid anti-European component so common in England.

Try reading the rest of the cite.

It was rebutted but certainly not refuted. Refutation involves proof, rebuttal merely contrary evidence.

Being rabidly anti-European is far from common in England. Being somewhat anti-European, but in a civilised and rational sense, is far more so. There’s a reason the vast majority of people - like, 90% or so - think UKIP is a laughing stock. The majority of the English aren’t strongly nationalistic, by which I mean that whatever nationalistic feelings they have, they aren’t that important to them.

Or do you really think that someone who’s glad that the UK is not in the Euro, and would consider voting to leave the EU if significant reforms aren’t made, to be rabidly anti-Europe? Because that describes me, and I don’t think I know anyone more anti-Europe than me, although plenty that have similar views.

It was proved that international law has nothing to say about a negotiated settlement separating two states. Your constant claims that international law would prevent a settlement whereby the rUK keeps, in one form or another, military bases that are in what is currently part of Scotland, are demonstrably false.

And your belief that Scotland will attempt to secede rather than negotiate the future of the bases is absurd. It simply won’t happen.

Oh, and the custom is 4 generations a century, not 3. Just another thing you’re wrong about.

Strawman. I said it wouldn’t be a flashpoint for another referendum not that there’s a rabid anti-EU component.

It is for the entertaining exercises like this that I read these threads.

For the other readers, it was already shown that the primary governing precept of the international law is the non-interference in sovereign territories, which the kosovo case was contested, but had the argument of the ethnic cleansing risk and the genocide risk that had already by the serbian state been tried in Bosnia. There is no

There is no case for pjen in this area and it is an example of a strange and not very reliable demarche she takes.

reading her posts makes one sympathetic to the english.

Aha, shifting the goalposts in a fishy manner. Cold brining is not smoking.

"We can be reasonably sure that people around the world enjoyed smoked fish since nearly the dawn of time, but better evidence suggests that the earliest fish smoking “factory” dates to the seventh century A.D. in Poland.

So now you’ve insulted the Poles and the Jews, not to mention the Paleolithics.

First, they came for their smoked salmon, then they came for their driving licences…

You keep starting these threads with “different” subjects, and they all boil down to arguing that, “Scotland wants to be independent.”

I’d also suggest that if you’re that concerned about the personal abuse and flaming, that you stop throwing fuel on the fire.

I tried reading this thread but it doesn’t make much sense. What do flags on money or smoked salmon have to do with the Westminster Kennel Club placing a Scottish Terrier second in the Terrier Group to a Smooth Fox Terrier? Other than dogs like smoked salmon?

Do you know anything about the history of Kosovo, or the Balkans in general? Because to use such a comparison is asinine. (If this were a conversation about Ireland, it might have merit. Scotland? You’ve gotta be shitting me.)

This is a problem with long arguments. The contention by Steophan was that any decision about territory would be solely a Scotland- rUK issue. I contended that there was international law relating to territory and other national assets. I quoted the Kosovo decision merely to reinforce my argument about there being established international law on the issue. I do not say that any specifics apply, merely that there is a supra-national set of law on the issue. It should be noted that he used the same technique over the Rothman decision which I quoted to show that there was such a thing as European Citizenship and that the EU could require states to not remove such citizenship, which the Rothman decision clearly supports; be tried to decry the fact by involving himself in the intricacies of the case in its specific decision rather than the general rules on all citizenship laid down in the arguments supporting the final decision.