Examining the Effect of Westminster decisions on Scotland

Sorry, forgot to add “Straw man” to the list of things you reply with instead of actually debating.

Well, if peel stopped erecting them, I would not have to knock them down.

Have been re-reading this thread and am impressed how much effort is being placed on personal abuse and flaming, and how little on the important questions of what effect Scottish devolutionist fervour will have and how this could be exacerbated by decisions made in Westminster.

That’s because everyone agrees that it will lead to further devolution but not independence, and yet somehow you keep finding things to argue with in that statement.

And if Scotland didn’t agree to that, there would be no independence. It’s really that simple. The only time permanent retention was mentioned was in response to your bizarre hypothetical in another thread that Scotland might unilaterally declare independence, rather than negotiate it.

Of course, all this presupposes that Scottish support for independence exists, rather than it being at something like 33% in the figures you provided.

That’s because you’re the only one who’s still pushing this stuff. The rest of the SDMB world has lost interest and moved on. Get back to us when you’re holding another referendum.

As before you ignore the possibility of settlement by international law via The Hague. They ruled on the Kosovo problem which had been an integral part of Yugoslavia then Serbia.

The Interesting thing is the number of different routes to that future vote.

Yes, I ignore it, because I don’t believe that Scotland will attempt to unilaterally secede. Literally no-one but you entertains that possibility.

How many different ways are there to wait 20 years, then see if there’s any desire for a vote?

I doubt it too, but the threat could concentrate minds. after all Cameron crumbled when faced with the possibility of an informal Referendum and agreed to the formal one. Faced with a persistent demand for independence from the Scottish people one can imagine either devomax being agreed rather than risk a further independence referendum. or home rule

That is your humble opinion (though I note that you have dropped from ‘a generation’ to two decades. IMHO there will be a revisit before 2025, and this view is quote widely held in the political discussions in the broadsheets. Fe now expect a lengthy delay.

You are just embarrassing yourself now. Two decades has for a long, long time been an approximation to a generation. He’s just varying his language a bit. People tend to do that, you know.

Oh and by the way, those routes you mention? You seem to be completely incapable of understanding that there’s a possibility of a different route, one that doesn’t end at a new referendum.

I’m assuming that “peel” is an autocorrect mistake and should be “people”. If so, I hope you are including yourself in that list of people setting up straw men. I mean, you clearly missed this:

Which is absolutely true. Even then, what you have done is in other threads repeatedly stated about how due to your living conditions you would be considered to be Scottish upon independence.

Is this a joke or reference that I’m missing? You realise we have salmon in English rivers too, right, and have been smoking fish since time immemorial like any other group of people who possess the technology to both light a fire and catch a fish, not to mention Jewish immigrants bringing their variant of smoked salmon from Eastern Europe to the major English cities?

Claiming smoked salmon as Scottish is bound to piss off the New Scots, i.e. Nova Scotians.

Be very afraid.

A generation in genealogy is seen as sufficient time for a family group to replace itself, and the convention is three generations to a century

Your own cite supports this:

‘In developed nations the average familial generation length is in the high 20s and has even reached 30 years in some nations.’

No. I have said that I would be happy to have a Scottish passport, but have never claimed in any manner to be culturally Scottish.

It was some storm in a teacup over one of those EU protected geographic designations, IIRC.

Separation referendum are disruptive and divisive. No one wants another any time soon except for hardcore Yes voters. I predict a minimum ten year wait despite what some hear in their echo chambers.