That’s it. Ignore the obvious wave of desire for considerable further devolution and concentrate on a non issue. Please respond to those rather impressive figures above.
The UK parliament has unlimited powers yet chooses not to use them. Does that make Westminster incompetent because it does not choose to use such powers?
And more than two thirds are in favour of considerably more devolution than currently on offer.
Congratulations on choosing the only statistic that remotely supports your anglocentric view.
And congratulations on another Straw man - as you have been reminded regularly, I support Home Rule in a federated state but believe the stress between Westminster and Hollywood will force independence.
And a further straw man- I have noted that on another poll without devomax/ home rule, just short of 60% would now vote for independence but about 80% want devomax.
I don’t think you know what a straw man is…
Nor do you, I believe, which is why you keep on using such arguments.
To help you, a straw man argument is one that imputed to an opponent an opinion which they do not hold and which is easy to prove wrong in order to claim a debating victory.
For instance the example above where you accuse me of being an outright supporter of independence, point out that the figures I quoted are pro union and against independence, and then go on to imply that I have undermined my own position, thus claiming a false debating victory for yourself by using an argument that I had not myself initially advanced.
But do go on making a fool of yourself with your scatter gun approach.
Why is this anglocentric? Unionist-centric, possibly, but you seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the only Unionists are English.
Perhaps you would like to address the obvious support for massive further devolution among the Scottish electorate.
Mine comes from a rocks glass with a couple of fingers of Johnny Walker Black or Gold and some water.
First the oil will run out, and then the peat. You can’t charge a royalty to the world for golf and plaid.
So, help me out a bit more. Since you are imputing to me an argument I haven’t made, what does that make your argument?
Not every argument you disagree with is a straw man, and not every argument I advance to do with independence is directly related to your views.
I am assuming that Steophan is a Little Englander by his posts.
Which false argument have I imputed to you?
Could you describe for me what you consider a ‘Little Englander’ to be?
Someone with an entirely anglocentric attitude.
What’s to address? Scotland will probably get that devolution in the next few years, and England will get English votes for English laws in some form. I doubt many people think anything else will happen, although plenty will share my misgivings about it.
No further reply needed.
Then that’s flawed - as I said, criticising the cause of independence does not necessarily make one anglocentric, or a ‘Little Englander’. This says more about you than it does of Steophan.
So, you’ve missed the many, many posts I’ve made where I argue that remaining in the Union is in Scotland’s best interests?
Or my argument that some form of European union is an entirely good idea, and that my objections to the current EU are practical rather than philosophical? That would have been easier to miss, it was only a couple of posts.
Or my repeated posts about how badly Ireland was treated by the Union, and specifically England? Hell, I’ll even criticise Thatcher if it will make you feel better. (But I’ll also slag off Scargill whilst doing so).
Which is an Anglocentric attitude, especially when expressed so forcefully and aggressively.
But your arguments are diversionary and off topic- another debating fallacy.
Nonsense on both counts. But hey, keep up the ad hominems, if we’re keeping score of debating fallacies. Or perhaps try to address my actual arguments, rather than avoiding all of them.
So back on topic.
Given the apparent demand for further devolution, I expect to see this tendency to be increased by unthinking unaware and offensive attitudes from Westminster.
It is not an anglocentric attitude. It is a Unionist attitude. There are Scottish people who would firmly agree with Steophan and are as proud of Scotland and as Nationalist and Alex Salmond.
You’re quite free to disagree with what Steophan says but your repeated attempts to pigeonhole him as if only an Englishman or someone who dislikes Scotland can have those views.