If you can make a woman orgasm by tittyfucking her or ejaculating on her face, you are a remarkable lover indeed.
I have to wonder how much of this is self selection though. I mean, these are guys who are evidently really clueless about women; the ones who aren’t that clueless aren’t going to act like that and won’t be noticed by you.
Searching for “Femdom” and “orgasm denial” or “chastity (device or belt)” would probably get you that sort of thing and more. There’s also (spoilered for slightly NSFW language) cock and balls torture, aka cbt.
That would be nice. Wouldn’t it?
It would also be nice if you actually addressed the points I raised in my last post.
That seems more like S&M play; my complaint is that most of the widely available porn is all about the man’s orgasm and pleasure, nearly always at the expense of hers, cause when the shows over for him, it’s over for her. And most of those acts that result in his finishing aren’t designed to make her feel good at all. She’s not a partner; she’s a target.
I don’t find it offensive; people like what they like and if everyone’s a consenting party, it’s none of my business. It’s just woefully unbalanced, and the women are left out in the cold with little to no regard for their satisfaction.
Do you see a lot of cunnilingus wherein the scene is finished without the man’s orgasm?
And no, I’ve never seen any gentle tittyfucking, it’s all pretty rough and not at all focused on stimulating the woman.
There’s a fair amount of porn where the woman does that (or worse) to the man. Most of it is written though I think. Visual porn leans heavily towards male tastes.
So a facial is only degrading if the man makes no effort to give the woman an orgasm afterwards? That seems to be what you’re saying here.
Huh, OTTOMH none of the tittyfucking in my files is rough.
This is what I was referring to; agreeing with the OP. That men 30-35 and under who have been exposed to mainstream porn seem to have wrong ideas about mutual pleasure, and at least from what I’ve seen and heard, they actually believe that most women receive screaming pleasure from humiliation and subservience.
Hopefully women of the same age have been similarly exposed and also find pleasure in recreating those scenes, but I think it’s more likely that they are frustrated by the imbalance.
If you don’t know the difference between a gagging, choking, blinding, suffocating facial and a messy blow job, I can’t really answer this question to your satisfaction. If you like it, cool. I don’t care to watch a woman embarrassed, in pain, or gagged for the sake of his pleasure.
So you’ve evidence that tf can give a woman an orgasm? Or is it primarily an avenue for his satisfaction?
I deny that all facials are gagging, choking, blinding or suffocating.
I never claimed a tittyfuck could give a woman an orgasm. Kindly cite the post where I did.
Troppus, just because a woman doesn’t orgasm doesn’t mean she doesn’t get physical pleasure.
Yeah, I’ve had sex before. It’s my understanding that many enjoyable acts are possible that don’t result in orgasm for either party. Doesn’t discount my point that most current mainstream porn shortchanges the women.
plenty of fluids there.
I take your greater point, but in making it, you have made many smaller points that are incorrect. I think it’s fair to call you on the smaller points that are incorrect, while conceding your greater points.
My wife enjoys doing things that I like, just for the hell of it sometimes.
And sometimes I’ll do something like vacuum the living room without prompting. It all balances out.
Wait, women can have orgasms? I thought that was a myth.
And I’ve certainly seen no evidence for it.
That’s nice. It also does nothing to invalidate Troppus’s point, which is that the vast majority of general audience porn consists mostly of acts that most women find no physical gratification in.
Is there specialty porn that focuses on acts that might conceivably bring the average woman to orgasm? Sure, probably. Is it what I’m going to stumble upon when browsing free videos? Of fucking course it’s not. That shit is all and lubeless anal and titty-cockslapping and jizz-smearing and zero-clitoral-contact penetration positions and 10-minute fellatio scenes where the actresses don’t even bother pretending to get off.
This is really, really not a controversial fact. For christ’s sake, Der Trihs gets this.
I don’t know. Each scene seems to have some Cunninglingus.
Read post #54.
Then, re read the rest of the thread. I never disagreed that the majority of porn was misogynistic and degrading to women.
What I do disagree on is that-
All facials involve blinding, choking, gagging
All facials are demeaning
All tittyfucks are rough and involve ‘mauling’
All tittyfucks are demeaning.
Euphemism? (but you might not want to let your wife hear you calling it “the living room”) 