Face Off Season 3

We always DVR it, but I think it’s on Tuesdays.

We’ve got another thread going on this.

Merged duplicate threads.

Regularly playing on Tuesday nights on SyFy. It should be On Demand.

First judge’s decision I vehemently disagreed with. Nicole was at most the third-worst. The Red Queen was not a Zombie but the judges loved the details. The Rabbit should have gone as it was badly conceived and badly done.

I didn’t see the crown on the winning Queen. It looked like she was morphing into a moose.

I thought all the stuff tonight (superheroes and sidekicks) was a bit underwhelming. One of the top teams was clearly only half good, and I was MUCH less impressed by the winners than the judges were. Although at least they clearly matched their vehicle, which none of the other teams really did. If you’d taken the other 3 teams and said “pick which vehicle this is for” it would have been tough…

Cowboy Hat guy (Roy? or is Roy the other one) is clearly the favorite, I’d say, followed by blonde lady.

How the heck is Todd still in the game? Every week he seems to dodge a bullet. Nicole is still doing consistently good work. I like her. I was also unimpressed with the winning team, especially the girl’s fire girl.

Yeah, underwhelmed, too. I was upset that they all went with strange characters with body issues. They were supposed to do superheroes! Where were the capes? The spandex body suits! Big, bulging muscles! They all went gothic, and monster-y. The winner went with an x-man style mutant, which was OK, but couldn’t one of them gone as Wonder Woman or Mister Incredible?

It was nice to see Rayce, though.

Ah, the superhero episode…

Good to see Rayce, he had some reasonable comments about how to incorporate the look and feel of the vehicle into the superhero costumes and looks.

Tommy clearly rode Nicole’s work this episode. His burn/explosion scar was off, and, as Glenn said, “I love that, I hate that.” He could have been in the bottom looks on his own, but Laura’s superior work made him safe.

Laura went with the X-men mutant kind of thing, which is superhero-y, but not what I think of as traditional - like what Noelq said. But it is the more modern aesthetic.

Alana also clearly rode Roy’s abilities to the win. Yes, her redo on the face sculpt was better, and her hero felt appropriate with the flames and the tie in to the car, but she wouldn’t have succeeded without lots of assistance/direction from Roy. No worries, though.

The two from the motorcycle had costumes that integrated well with each other and the motorcycle, but they were missing the “superhero” element a bit, and I couldn’t follow how the girl was basically a normal person but her sidekick was some demonspawn thing. That didn’t feel coherent. Derek’s makeup also fell apart, and I agree that Sarah’s was unclear what that was on her face, and how the patch worked. Let me go on note, however, for nixing the rivets idea. I just hate the idea of rivets for eyepatches. They did that in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country. Bleh.

Jason and Rod’s were big fails in execution across the board. The concept of a rich hero brain and his hireling muscle wasn’t horrible on the face of it, but everthing about their execution stank. Why use molded silicone for the metallic harnesses? Why cover up the physique of the muscle with the jacket? The ripping skin didn’t convey well. And Rod sculped the same face 3 times. Even his redo wasn’t really different. I wonder if they used the same actor each time? I expected him to get sent home for not being able to do a different face. I suspect next time that might be a deciding factor.

This one had plenty of competitors for elimination and really only three who did well, and one of those was because of the vast help of the other.

Laura’s got an outside chance at this, but I really feel Roy is best of the lot. I think if Alanna get’s paired with someone less capable or has to work alone, she’ll crumble out.

I’ll handicap the rest of the shows.

  1. Roy
  2. Laura
  3. Alana - despite being clumsy, she’s had consistent work despite the individual projects.
  4. Derek, Sarah, Rod - all about even, each has strengths and weaknesses. Rod’s got some abilities, but not sculpting faces. Sarah is great with costuming, not as good on prosthetics. Derek has ups and downs.
  5. Tommy - his High on the last is misleading, on his own he would have been Low. His other High was with Derek on the Chinese Dragons, where Derek’s aesthetics were the key to victory. His own visions haven’t worked.

Obviously, anyone can screw up and lose at any time. Alana’s clumsiness is an X-factor that could take her out early. Roy would have to have a really bad day with an inept partner and be overly ambitious to not make it to the final 3.

Hmm. I liked the gray/green lady (Thorne?); I thought the paint job was very nice and well thought out, and also matched the model’s face/expression pretty well. I may be missing something, but every single one of the others looked like crap to me. The winning lady’s flames looked awful. Maybe it’s more impressive in real life.

The cars were pretty sweet.

Were there any superheros in that episode? I saw an army guy with his alien lover. A couple ripped off (poorly) from Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (at least Angelina Jolie had straps on her eyepatch). A demoness with plastic fire and an imp that were cute but not necessarily superheroish and Brain and Brawn was just bad.

Thorne was totally the best. I just loved the makeup, with the grey and green tones. The imp was great too, but his expressions couldn’t change, as the grin was sculpted in.

In modern conceptions, “superhero” is broader than the stereotypical person in tights with magical powers, or perhaps rich guy with gadgets.

the Punisher
Spawn
Thor
Hellboy

I get that. I think the problem is with a lot of the people on Face Off, they are so into aliens and zombies that everything morphs into one of those. I mean, half of then can’t even get a simple injury or scar or torn skin right. One of the better contestants has one look for a face and that’s it. There is certainly a problem with them working out of their comfort zone.

If you saw Thorne with no context, would you think superhero or Star Trek:TNG alien? At least Fire and Chaos looked like they were out of a comc book. I think it was just lacking a certain superhero look. Maybe it’s because her and her imp were more villian than hero for me.

Irishman, I think your handicapping is right. Roy and Laura are clearly the class of the competition. Alana’s flame girl - Fire - was good, although the flames did look fake. And Roy and Alana were unquestionably the best team.

I disagree with Alana’s win - Roy’s character Chaos was, in my mind, the very best. Although Laura’s Thorne was closer to “superhero”. Maybe they gave Alana the win because she managed to get through the challenge without amputating an appendage?

Kidding, of course, but I do wonder about the influence of personality. This is, after all, a reality show; I can’t imagine the producers don’t ask themselves, a little bit, “Who is the most engaging contestant?” Which is Alana, in my mind - she’s very endearing. Not saying that if her work was below standard she would still be around, but it probably doesn’t hurt that she’s young, exuberant, and cute. Seems to explain Tommy, who’s not been very consistent, but is a bit eye-candyish.

Final thought: am I the only viewer who wants to throw Glenn in a shower and scrub him with a broom? Seriously, dude, wash your freaking hair!

“Roy did alot of work too” - made me want to punch alana - something about the way it was phrased…

Was the job offer to the let go contestant legit?

Yeah, I think that comment single-handedly won her the challenge. If Roy didn’t respond with an explanation of what he did that was cut out in the edit, they probably thought Alanna did all the work.

The whole challenge was a pretty big failure for most of them. The winning team was not surprising at all. The fire did look fake, but fire is best done by CGI, or real fire composited in, not makeup. The imp was awesome, though. I was surprised that Rod didn’t get the boot, though. Forget about looking the same as his past work, it was just terrible overall.

I agree, but then then I look at Mystique from the X-men films and wonder about that, too.

Agreed as well.

Hee hee. No, I’ll give a rundown on how I think they evalutated it.

Laura’s Thorne was pretty good work. She had excellent sculpts and makeup, it had a feel like the previously mentioned Mystique. Glenn even said it felt like it drew from elements we’ve seen before. I think it lacked a little something in the color department. The big issue with hers was that it didn’t really connect with the vehicle or the partner. The partner being a soldier guy made sense for the vehicle, but who was she, how did they meet, why was she in the Humber Pig tank thing? Her color scheme was chosen to tie in to the vehicle, so she had that, but that isn’t enough, in my opinion. The story wasn’t there. And she was shackled to Tommy’s dreadful burn guy. Because she wasn’t in the top team, she couldn’t be the winner. She was still a high look herself.

Alana’s Fire was overall pretty good. The plastic flames weren’t quite great, but that’s the kind of thing that would be CGI’d in now anyway. The face sculpt she did worked out much better than her original attempt, and the color and style really meshed to the car. She most captured the challenge of matching the car. Roy’s Chaos was pretty good, and had lots of intentional asymmetry, but the expression was set, as someone above mentioned. Also, the side kick tied to the superhero, but not the car.

So with that handicapping, Fire is the winner. Now that only happens because Roy did so much handholding and helped her with the flames and all that, so a big part of the win is because Roy was there. But Roy didn’t speak up. Which is okay, I would hope the judges are bright enough to hear " I did x, y, and z" and realize that means her partner did “p, q, and r”, i.e. everything else.

So Fire is the winner, and that means the winner is Alana.

I get the feeling that the judges have free hand in their evaluations. The judging appears to be all on merit. Now the thing is, this is all in the can, so the producers have the ability to craft the story they tell with the judges decisions and the stuff they filmed. The pick and choose who’s remarks to insert where, etc. I have no doubt the producers have crafted the show to play to strengths like Alana being cute, her clumsiness as a drama point, and her incessant comments that she has the least experience to sell her as the underdog. Honestly, every time I hear her comment, I can’t help thinking “That just means you shouldn’t win.” Except, of course, others keep doing worse than her.

Yeah, Glenn is overmade up and freaky, but he’s one of those “artistic types”.

They had a strong case to boot Rod, what with the face still looking similar and the overall poor design choices. But Jason’s choices weren’t good either. Rod had a Win in his history that Jason didn’t, so that might have made a difference in their opinions of the overall ability. But Ve said the biggest point was having an actor with such a strong physique that played right into the concept of superhero and the character being a muscleman, and yet they covered his muscles in a jacket. I can see that justification. Jason screwed the pooch there.

So Rod get’s another week to sculpt the same face.

True, I liked the aesthetic of the jacket, especially with respect to the old-fashioned Chicago gangster-looking car. But maybe they should have used a jacket that was way too small for him, and ripped it up a bit, like he’d burst out of it.

I, personally, think the guy not wearing a shirt didn’t fit with being a gangster era guy, but I see the point Ve made.