Fall 2018 Central America migrant caravan to the US

They’re a thousand miles or so from the U.S. border. I don’t think they’ll be knocking at the door in 15 days.

So if it becomes violent, how? By internal clashes amongst the Hondurans? By clashes between the Hondurans in the caravan, and the Mexicans whose territory they’re passing through?

Either one means they’re a lot less likely to arrive at the U.S. border anytime soon, which would make this more of a non-issue.

What, is there an Internet equivalent of the Deep State or something? :smiley:

Trump has declared (on twitter) that this situation is a “National Emergy”:

Clearly the U.S. is experiencing an Emergy Crisis.

This we agree on.

I think he will if they make it to the US border. I think that’s a big IF though. Mexico is a huge country, and the group should be pretty dispersed by the time they get to the Rio Grande. Many of the migrants might choose to stay in Mexico. If the majority of them do decide to cross into the US though, it won’t be in one huge mass like they did in Guatemala, they will trickle in through border towns.

I don’t know. Like I said, by the time they actually get to the US (if they do), they will be so dispersed that the dynamics of the crossing won’t be so dramatic.

The migrants won’t be voting. I guess the situation could get a few activists riled up to bring more people to the ballot box on both sides, but I don’t think it will shift the elections one way or the other.

The War on Drugs should be ended.

Nothing. This will blow over like everything else.

This morning Trump tweeted that he was going to cut off financial aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador because of the migrants.

I note that his tweet shows an incredible ignorance of what governments actually do and do not do: most governments of free peoples do not prevent their own citizens from traveling outside their country.

The man wants to be Kim Il-sung, as I have said.

I had never thought about it that way. That is utterly terrifying.

Yep, and Trump will claim that his strong rhetoric is what kept them from coming.

this is fantasy come true for Trump and his fans. And the timing is perfect too. If he was smart he would actually fund this group.

Who’s to say he’s not?

George Soros funding them right? or some Hollywood liberal billionaire.

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that this was actually directed and funded by GOP operatives. I mean, think about it: who is going to benefit?

Sounds like a vast right-wing conspiracy to me :wink:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that this was actually directed and funded by GOP operatives. I mean, think about it: who is going to benefit the most from this? Not the migrants themselves, at least not in the short term. Why would Democrats have funded or directed this? They wouldn’t gain anything from it (and in fact are not gaining anything from it).

But the GOP… they stand to gain a lot from the imagery of a city-sized mob pushing up to the border, a mob (of dark skinned people!) so large that the entire Mexican police force and army didn’t even try and stop them… :eek:

ETA: Sorry for the sort-of double post y’all.

If you want to convince people to accept a nutty hypothesis, best not to encourage them to think about it.

The timing of this is not good for the Democrats, and even if it’s not a deal breaker, every little bit helps (or hurts). But this is a tough and complex problem and I’m not sure what the best solution is. I expect that whatever solution Trump comes up with, It will be:

  1. Overly simplistic.
  2. Unlikely to work.
  3. Possibly/likely to be unconstitutional.

You joke but you know that there are and have been recent right-wing conspiracies (of debatable "vastness, no doubt), right?

Agreed, I hope everyone could see that my comments were tongue-in-cheek.

This is just an example of the Trump administration not letting a good crisis go to waste. They are exploiting this situation to their advantage.

The Central American migrant crisis is directly the fault of the US government however, both R’s and D’s, as it is directly caused by the bi-partisan War on Drugs.

It’s even worse than that. There IS no crisis.

What. The. Everloving. F… You do realize, Orange Moron (and the fools who voted for him – sorry, I had to say it), that: 1. There is no migration crisis, and 2. Even if there were, this is EXACTLY the kind of action that would make it WORSE.