Fallout from Rick Perry's "Debate Performance"

Currently, all a student needs to enroll in public school is demonstrate residency in the district. This can be done a variety of ways. The district does not inquire as to immigration status, nor does it report suspected immigration violations. So, basically, we teach all of the kids who show up for school, regardless of where they came from or how they came to be there.

What Perry is being criticized for is extending in-state college tuition to illegal immigrants. Given his stance on other issues, I cannot imagine why he has taken this position. He must be getting some kind of a kickback from someone. Slick Rick is not someone to take political heat without there being a personal payoff.

Even the lowest have some moral boundaries. Look at GeeDubya’s firm stance against experiments in animal/human hybrids. Earned him the wrath of the entire hybrid community, and he stuck with it.

Payoff? Latino voters. Duh, ya’ll.

Word vomit, lol. That’s the exact word for the soup that spilled ouf ot Perry’s lips. Sounded like a guy adamantly trying to tell a joke while being clueless as to what was the punchline.

His contentment with his apparent stupidity is very reminiscent of George Bush.

“Tonight, on CNN, the first of the Obama-Perry debates…”

Oh, please, Lord! Just give me this one sign…

Once again, pundits reveal themselves to know nothing. They were wrong nearly 100% of the time throughout the (what seemed like) 100 year 2008 campaign, and they’re wrong again pretending like Perry’s debate flubs have killed him. Perry’s still leading the polls, and no one is fleeing him en masse due to his stance on not wanting dark people to starve to death. Sure, his numbers skyrocketed hugely upon entering the race and have tapered off some, but that’s because he was shiny and new, and people who had never previously heard of him had no reason to hate him yet. Even following the Fla debate, he takes home 28% of the vote.

I hope and pray to gods his numbers remain strong. Repubos are betting on this guy as their chance to unseat Obama, and the longer they keep betting on the wrong horse, the happier I am. See you at the finish line in 2012, jerks!

Don’t make me laugh. Seems like Republicans have spent too much time in Vegas. “Always bet on black” isn’t a universal rule, folks. Cain and his “nan-nan-nan” plan go nowhere. I guarantee.

Go, Perry, go!

Rick Perry's wife says he'll be 'better prepared' for debates - POLITICO Not Perrys fault. He never had debate classes or a debate coach, says his wife. She says he will be better prepared the next time.
Why wasn’t he prepared for the first two? Was it just a lark? Did he think the power of stumbling would give him a Bushian aura of every man?
The right wing pundits are the ones who bailed on Perry. They saw he is not presidential, and is stupid. There are those who think that is a disqualifier for the most powerful position on earth. They are the ones who went after Christie hoping for a savior.
The Dems are watching the Republican self destruction as pure observers. They have no need to talk about Perry. He will do the job himself.

There’s a right horse?

Well some are righter than others, depending on how you define “right.” There’s Jon “I’m Not Crazy Enough for the GOP” Huntsman who I’d hate to see in the White House least, and then the rest of the veritable assortment of clowns the Republicans call candidates, some of whom have fared better than others in theoretical showdowns with Obama. Perry loses. Place on your chips on that guy, GOP, for the love of your country.

Go, Perry, go!

Somebody has to get the Republican nomination. If the economy is much worse than it is now - or not a lot better - then an inanimate carbon rod could beat Obama.

(hit send too soon) One of the current contenders, or perhaps one of the people on the edges (Palin, Chrstie, etc)

(darn hand held app) Anyway, if you’re in the pool of potential R candidates, you’ve got to be thinking “Why not me?” i expect that lack of money and votes will pare down the field significantly after the first primary or two. Which may be next week at this rate. Unless the first primaries are next week, Perry gas plenty of time for recover and stumble cycles, serveral of thrm if his funding holds up.

True, Unnamed Republican X beats Obama, but when we actually solve for X and come up with Rick Perry, Obama wins. It’s one thing to say “Theoretically, I would vote Republican” if you feel the current Democratic administration has failed you, but inserting an unsavory Republican isn’t the same as the inanimate carbon rod which fails to ignite ire. Of course, these are all just very preliminary opinion polls, and when it’s time to mark down votes in the actual ballot box, people may very well cast the anti-Obama vote.

Unless, that is, they nominate Michele Bachmann. Now that would make my November, but it’ll never happen.

I appreciate the consideration. :stuck_out_tongue:

The Republicans have to find a carbon rod that was made in America at least 35 years ago, and push through a bill conferring citizenship on it.

If they have the long form certificate of manufacture, then there’s no problem.

Just thought if something… Isn’t carbon Black?

I watched the first several minutes of the debate. Perry’s “Obamacare” attack against Romney did seem very tongue-tied, but to some extent I agree with Perry: slick speaking is not what we need. (Perry’s demeanor strongly reminded me of the previous Texas Governor who became President.)

Something else that struck me was that the moderators were not fair-handed. Perry gave a fairly responsive answer to “How will you increase employment?” and it was the moderator who accused him of not being specific. Bachmann, on the other hand, got a pass for answering “All of it” when asked what percentage of pre-tax pay a worker should be allowed to keep. The moderator repeatedly interrupted one candidate (Paul?) to attack his answers.

Another thing that struck me was that these Republicans must come from a parallel universe in which the problems facing America are quite different from those of Reality. One proposed a 9-9-9 tax (with zero SocSec tax?), another wanted to abolish income tax altogether.

Saturday Night Live did a good parody of the debate. (NBC and Hula won’t stream to my country, but someone put it up on Youtube.)

9-9-9. (Why not call it the Magic Number 9 policy?)

Nine percent federal sales tax? What the fuckin’ hell? Does Herman Cain live in some backwater where his state and local government don’t also enact a sales tax? So he’s telling me Americans will LOVE having a 12-15% tax tacked onto all their purchases? And business owners will love it too? Local/state governments as well? They won’t be able to ever increase their own sales tax with the feds’ 9% sitting on top. Unlike the income tax, increases in sales tax are much more visible because they pop up on every receipt you get. If you can’t even get people to vote for a penny tax to help with schools, what makes you think they’ll like paying nine more cents to every dollar they spend? (And if they suddenly do, they’re hypocrites).

And where does he come up with 9%? What, 10% is too double-digitally or something? Craziness, man.

All it does it shift the burden onto people who make shit but still have to buy groceries. Such purchases comprise a larger percentage of their spending than it does for the well-to-do.

It sounds exactly what a country with sluggish consumerism needs. Lets penalize people for being good little consumers by squeezing extra money out of them at the register! Yeah, that’s the ticket!

No, we pay sales tax in Georgia.

The Federal Sales Tax proposed under the 9-9-9 plan would be added to applicable state and local taxes.

It’s a temporary fix. The ultimate goal is The Fair Tax Act for Cain. Obviously, that’s going to take time. This is the first step towards that goal.

Ok, yes, it’s an added consumption based tax but the plan also drops the income tax rate down to 9% for the bottom 80% of American earners.

It will cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 9%. It eliminates the estate tax, payroll taxes and taxes on capital gains as well.

There are also deductions to businesses that “employ residents living in designated lower-income “empowerment zones,” as well as income tax deductions for residents living in those zones.” This deduction is intended to spur growth in inner cities and other low-income areas of the country.

Also deductions for business investments.

I’m beginning to discern that you’ve failed to adequately assess his 9-9-9 plan in full (I mean, you did only comment on one of the 9’s). Again, it is a national sales tax but you’re going to see an income tax drop to 9% for the bottom 80% of tax payers in this country.

Well, obviously, 9% is less than 10% so that’s a good reason, of course. I don’t know the answer to this question, so I won’t even take a stab at it.

Again, you’re omitting the income tax drop.

Please do a bit more research before your offer you 2 cents.

So, if your tax rate is at or near 9% already, you aren’t going to see very much reduction, if at all.
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so the corporations who are already making RECORD profits and NOT hiring new workers get to keep more of their money and the deficit still doesn’t get paid down.

And again, the bottom 80% are going to get squeezed because they are going to have to pay more for stuff, while their income tax rates probably aren’t going to be reduced by much if at all. No, we’ve “adequately assessed” this plan, and it stinks.

If this plan gets implemented, 2 cents is going to be more than we can afford.