I liked season 2 better than season one.
Aa someone with absolutely no knowledge or interest in the games, I actually wish game discussion would be kept out of this thread (which is supposed to be about the series, not the game). I don’t care about game-related easter eggs, or game insights, or in game knowledge and how it relates to the plot. I find them distracting when trying to read discussion about the series.
Just my 2 cents for whatever its worth.
The games are canon in the series, Cooper is an NPC in Fallout 76, and the head of Bethesda has said the events of the series are going to lead into Fallout 5. You really can’t separate them. It’s like saying you don’t want people bringing up the Star Wars movies in a thread about The Mandalorian.
I’ll agree to disagree. I enjoy the show just fine without knowing anything about the games.
No one is saying you can’t. You just can’t pretend the games don’t exist because they are intertwined with the show. You can’t expect people to not talk about how the games fit in. The great thing about the show is you don’t have to know about the games to enjoy it. I played them so long ago and only once so my level of knowledge is barely above yours.
That’s the neat thing. I actually can.
This is true. I would prefer it but I do not expect it.
It’s no different than a film or TV series that is designed as a sequel to a book. It’s inevitable that the book gets discussed to give context to the new show. If someone doesn’t have any interest in the book, or doesn’t like to read books, they can ignore the discussion of the book, but discussion of that book is still very appropriate in a discussion of the show.
I’m with you. The fanbois SQUEE over every Easter Egg is just going to be there. We still mock them though! There’s that!
What I like about the easter eggs is that they contribute to the worldbuilding, but don’t require me to understand. It’s just a tidbit or design choice, not something I have to “get”.
“Haha! You are engaging with this product in the method in which its creators intended that people engage with it! How silly of you! Ha ha!”
The show runners are clearly big fans of the games, and that’s crucial for adapted media like this.
I beg to differ. I don’t understand the fan service bits (until helpful people here explain them), but I love seeing people find joy even if I’m not a participant in the same way.
With the greatest affection: Shine on, you crazy geeks!
The good news for the anti-game ragers is that Season 3 is going into terra incognita, with respect to Fallout canon. There’s not a lot of background about Colorado, other than a few passing mentions and non-canonical games.
OTOH, since the Enclave is turning out to be the third-act villain, there’s a huge amount of canon there to discuss and lovingly fondle.
Colorado IIRC is where Caesar united 80 tribes of low tech ‘tribals’ to form the backbone of his Legion. Denver is called “Dogtown” and is totally overrun by mutated mutts; the tribes of Denver live in tall buildings and use bridges and platforms to move around safe from the wild dogs, and they also train their own dogs. But Caesar conquered them (legion war hounds come from Denver in Fallout New Vegas).
No specific lore about the Enclave being there (or anywhere except DC, the West Coast, or Appalachia AFAIK) but it makes perfect sense that they would be
I’m betting on them being at NORAD, or its Fallout equivalnt.
NORAD exists in the Fallout universe. It’s where Vault 0, a cryo-vault that was intended to be the headquarters of the Vault Project after the war, is located. It was the final level in Fallout Tactics.
It was also supposed to be in Van Buren, the original 2D turn-based version of Fallout 3 that got cancelled when Interplay went out of business.
Like Smatpi pointed out, actually quite a bit of lore… but it’s been considered NON-canon since it came from a dubious spinoff. Considering some of the background in this season a lot of Fallout fans are starting to think Fallout: Tactics might actually work its way into some sort of canonicity or the show’s 3rd season will take some plot elements from the game.
For some reason I thought that Tactics took place in Chicago. And I’ve never played it so I had forgotten the Enclave was involved. But either way, it makes perfect sense for the Enclave to have a base in the Rockies.
Clearly they’re hiding out in the satanic Illuminati tunnels under DIA, and will activate Bluecifer-Prime in the finale.
Some later games have mentioned Tactics events, and a developer has acknowledged it. No such courtesy has been offered the 2004 BoS game. Van Buren has a lot of back information which may or may not be canon (and as it was never finished, the final game may have had completely different stuff. Some of the New Vegas dialog references what could have been, particularly Ulysses.
Tactics starts near Chicago, for example the second location is Freeport, IL. As the game goes on you start to expand territory through MO, KS, CO.
A modern take on Tactics could be really cool. Something like the XCOM games (or alternatively, the new Menace) could be really cool, especially if it had asymmetric factions.
I think you’re right. At least part of the game is there. But I’ve never played it so I don’t have first-hand insight, and Googling returns a confusing mishmash so I’m not positive ATM.
I know one of the games has a Chicago chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel, which has power armor designs radically different from the designs seen in the canonical games, because I have Mods in Fallout 4 that add those power armor designs to the game.
ETA: reading over the specific wiki page in one of the Fallout fan wikis, it appears that Tactics starts in Chicago but culminates in Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado.
Yeah the Mid-West Brotherhood designs are very influenced by Warhammer 40k so they can get pretty outthere.