OK, so the show isn’t just flat telling us Vault-Tec dropped the bombs?
No, they are just telling us they’d be willing to. We still don’t know who does, even mr know everything doesn’t seem to know.
Thanks. I’ve played all the main games, playing 3 and New Vegas twice. I couldn’t remember if they had every told us what actually happened.
They certainly implied it in season 1, but we never saw them actually do it. In retrospect it doesn’t make a lot of sense that Barb would let it happen while Janey was off with Cooper in the middle of the city anyways.
FWIW the Closed Captioning referred to him as a Super Mutant (actually did that before it was revealed).
And yeah your first view of the US Government in the franchise is a solider making a Canadian kneel n the street as he proceeds to shoot him in the back of the head and wave to a camera like he’s on vacation.
I haven’t played that game in 30 years and that image has stuck with me.
And I think that’s the key point. In the Fallout universe, when the bombs fell, there were many groups with the power and motivation to kick off such a war, and while digging through terminals at various dungeons we learn as much. Which of them actually pulled the trigger is less interesting than how the world collectively got to that point to begin with.
I know, I actually said “Super Mutant!” before he turned around and my wife didn’t know what I was talking about.
When I heard the sound and saw the big, shambling form, I told my wife I really hoped we finally get to see a Super Mutant. And it looks like we do!
I hope we get to see Nightkin later also. I always thought they were really cool in the games.
My first thought went to an intelligent deathclaw. In the 2nd Fallout game, you run into an intelligent deathclaw you can take as a companion. He runs around in a big robe and takes it off whenever you go into combat. Since New Vegas has a deathclaw problem, I just thought it’d be a deathclaw.
A lot of speculation went this way. And I think by the design. The earlier trailer had one of Perlman’s lines from this episode in it but now we know it was altered slightly to hide that it was him…it sounded A LOT like the tone of the Deathclaw growls. More than one Fallout fan channel posted this possibility–especially on how much the show seems to be hoing to Fallout 1 and 2 elements.
If TV worked the way it used to we would have gotten an entire episode about Steph and her journey to Vault 33. Even if I didn’t know this was the penultimate episode I would by the end of this one. It had “setting up the grand finale” written all over it.
…well, that’s not normal, Thadeus… Even for a ghoul… Uh oh.
I know there was speculation that he might be turning into a Super Mutant. This screams more of a “Centaur” to me.
Both Centaurs and Super Mutants are generally made in a vat of FEV, but the show could take some liberties with that.
I almost wonder if they’re setting Thadeus up as some kind of new Master type villain for a later season.
Thadeus is too goofy to be getting up as a villain, he’s got comedic sidekick written all over him.
Yeah his falling apart will be played for laughs until he turns into a monster and is dispatched.
Hank can be pretty goofy at times too. I think it could work, slowly over the course of a season.
That feels even darker than becoming a villain!
Lucy’s takedown of Bothsiderism was brutal.
So the speculation I’m seeing on Thaddeus is that he may have been injected with original Mariposa strain FEV. The pre-war strain of FEV was highly unpredictable, and it’s where both horrible monsters like the Centaurs come from, as well as the original Master, who looks like this (spoilers for Fallout 1, a game that’s only a handful of years younger than I am):
Super Mutants (or rather West Coast Super Mutants because I think there might be a difference) come from a strain of FEV that the Master perfected over years of experimentation post-war and was much more reliable at always producing a Super Mutant. Weird mouths and limbs falling off is more consistent with the original recipe.
Not to mention incredibly relevant to current discourse…
It has been many years since I played FONV, but the computer version of House you talk to at first isn’t robotic/artificial at all, is it? It’s the real House talking to you from his basement stasis tank?
That would imply that Cooper is talking to the real House who is still alive. (I did see someone on Reddit note that there is a snow globe that comes from a modded quest from New Vegas where you have to find a snow globe to deliver to House, so maybe that implies the Courier was on somewhat decent terms with House?).
Again it has been many many years since I played FONV but I think the one time I finished the game I sided with the NCR and killed House.
Are we at a cliffhanger for every POV character? Kinda feels that way. They really know how to make a penultimate episode!
In the game, I don’t think you learn that House preserved his body until the end of the game if you’re trying to shut him down. Until that point, I just assumed House uploaded his brain into the computer.
I sided with House, mainly because he played it straight with me the entire game. I felt as though the NCR was getting a little too big for their britches and the Legion obviously wasn’t a good option, so I bet on the House.
Another question: why is Hank using that senator lady’s head? Because she was a good person, or some other reason?
And do we know anything about the last president of the United States? As far as I know we don’t even get his name in the games, do we? But by the time we see him in the flashbacks he would have been part of the Enclave and living on the oil rig off the coast of California, right?.
I guess this is how the Enclave comes to have the fusion power? Cooper gives it to the President before the war even starts? But then you’d think the Enclave would have used it at some point in the last 200 years to take over…
Not a game player, so I don’t know anything about FEV other than the mention in the game and discussion here. Is it something that could be, say, added to a water supply to dose people? The supposed resolution of the water chip issue seems too simple; there has to be more coming.