No Diane, I can honestly give a rats ass about the story. What the people here are reacting to is not their desparate belief that it is true but your senselss attacks on other users when you don’t think something washes.
Rather than constructively apporaching things you out and out say “well i think it sound phony so it must be bullshit”. I’m surprised you’re not a lawyer.
You always use violence. I should’ve ordered glutinous rice chicken.
I don’t want to move this to the PIT because I am in too good of a mood with my trip and birthday and Valentine’s Day to be able to get into “flame mode”, but I would like to point out a few things.
Go back and read my first post, the one before the wolves attacked. This time read it a little bit more thorough. With the minor exception of “It’s an URBAN LEGEND and my guess is that it is total bullshit”, I fail to see where I “cause strife for everyone just because you’re miserable all the time?” or “* harass this young lady.”* In fact, it looks like you are the one who is miserable, I merely stated that I do not believe this story. The last time I looked, a difference in opinion was not synonymous with “miserable” or “harassing” however, your reaction seems to be a closer match.
Fact is, is that that the story is almost identical to an UL. I mentioned that it is an UL and then I proceeded to tell the details of that UL but obviously there are one or two posters who didn’t want to hear about the existence of a story that debunks the OP but instead call me “miserable” and bring up my sex life. If I knew a few thin skinned people were going to get their panties in a ruffle over someone questioning this story, I would have been a wee more gentle.
Let me slip on the kid gloves and reword my sentence to prevent any further hurt feelings or make anyone else cry.
“It may be one of those urban legend things, Punkins. I think that maybe there is a part of the story that might not be totally true, but I won’t tell you what or why, because, well. . . . because I wuv you Snookums, and I would never say anything to make you sad or angry and stuff.”
Well, as I said in the Pit version of this thread, where everyone’s blasting Monty same as they’re blasting Diane here, this story seems suspiciously urban-legendish to me. I seem to have heard it somewhere before. However, I haven’t been able to find any links or references to it as an urban legend. I did find this news story, however: http://www.apbnews.com/newscenter/breakingnews/2000/02/14/flasher0214_01.html, about a fellow who gets his jollies flashing the workers in drive-through fast-food restaurants. I suppose it is not impossible that he might be a mechanic- even perverts have day jobs, usually.
Where you relate a long drawn out tale of your “friend” that has some lousy tenants…Hmmmm…didn’t they make a movie about something like that?..I mean, who would rent out a place to friends?..everyone knows not to do that. And all the things he put up with before evicting them?..Nobody would toloerate that.
or how about this thread? http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004971.html
10 years?..I mean, talk about an UL…The story of two lovers separated by incredible distance, involved in a relationship for 10 years,(all of which is speant apart) meeting on Valentine’s Day, and the woman wanting something special to mark the occasion.
I mean, stuff like that doesn’t happen…
Where you claim to have had sex in a movie theater…As if you could do that without getting caught, and have the cops called…or on top of a glacier…Can we say “FrostBite”?
You see, it’s all subjective. Just because something like that hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it hasn’t happen at all. And to come out and basically accuse a poster that has to this point been honest and straight forward of lying, is just wrong. If it had been a new poster, registered within a day of creating the thread, maybe there would be some justification. But not in this case.
See the difference is this Atrael - I couldn’t give a shit if you believe anything in my old posts or not (but I am mildly impressed at the time you have to dredge up my old posts). It is your right as a reader to believe the things I write or to tell me “bullshit” just as I have the right not to buy the OP in this thread. I personally think you are ridiculous and grasping at straws, but WTF, knock yourself out with the search engine.
There is a very slim chance that the story may be true, but the similarities are a little bit too close to the UL, so yeah, I think it is a crock of shit and I will say so. You see, this is a message board where we all have differences of opinion and I will state mine any time I choose, so deal with it.
Here, I’ll put this thread to death just so you can untwist your panties.
"WOW! Really? He was beating off in the car when he came through the drive up window?? DANG!!! Say what??? She then found out that the owner of the car was a manager of another donut shop??? That is just truly amazing!!! It gets better?? You mean to say that the mechanic was driving the car and just happened to drive up to the same donut chain that the car owner worked for and was beating off as he went to the window? OMG!!! What are the chances!!! Very bizarre!!! Come to think of it, I think I have heard of this same thing happening, but I know it couldn’t be the same story. Well golly! Do you think I could chain mail this story to all my internet friends and see how far it can spread?
Geez, that is just so cool!"
There ya go. All better? I must now run along and dig out my old long John’s. I hear Alaska is cold this time of year.
Felice, do you really think things like this are uncommon?
Bravo Atrael! Nice work.
Falcon, if you posted something that happened to you here and someone said:
or implied that everyone who believed it was “gullible”, You wouldn’t think that was rude? My definition of rude must be all srewed up.
“I’ve got a DungeonMaster’s guide, I’ve got a twelve-sided die, I’ve got Kitty Pryde and Nightcrawler too, waiting there for me, yes I do.”
Weezer-In the Garage
Falc-
The only reason people are jumping on Diane is because she called a poster a liar. If she had anything to back up her story it would be fine but, of course she doesn’t. Thats a bad thing. Imagine if someone called you a liar for your roommate troubles. Hell was there ever a heatherlee?? Maybe it was Satan in drag? I think maybe i heard a story like that once somewhere, is not good enough to call someone’s credibility into question. and Diane knows that. Or she should!
-Frankie
“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion
If someone called my roommate troubles a UL, I’d brush them off and move on. I know what the truth is. Is this attitude uncommmon? Yes. However…given the amount of shit in my life right now, I have more important things to worry about than what someone thinks.
And Demo…you know I loves ya. But on a rudeness scale of 1-10, Diane’s comment rates about a 2. Come on…if Diane REALLY wanted to be rude and bitchy, there’s a lot else she could have said. After all, we all know she always holds back. And maybe my rudeness scale is messed up…lord knows I’ve had worse than that said to my face.
Just my $.02.
“You are sweet, kind, and considerate… Like a grown up boy scout with tits!”
Nickrz said it much better than I could over in the Pit.
I guess that from here on we can except that Frankie, Dem, Burn, and Wally will not be challenging any poster for the validity of anything written, after all, that would be rude!!!
I was not at the restaurant when this happened, but I was told about it by Angie afterward, and I had no reason to beleive it happened, except for the fact that she told me.
I didnt interview witnesses, demand a copy of the police report, a video of the drive through ( they -the company- are WAY to cheap to put cameras in the drive thrus, trust me on that!)or ask for any other proof.
When she related this story, if she had know what an uproar it would cause, she wouldnt have posted it at all. It is not in he nature to tell a story to try and trick people into beleiving it. She just cant be bothered. She has nothing to prove here. She spends most of her time in chat, not here, and in chat, she isnt prone to wild stories to attract attention. It just isnt in her nature.
That being said, I need to add some facts, YES FACTS! to this debaucle.
We live in Moncton - fact
2.Angie is the manager of a Tim Hortons - fact
I am not a big fan of the organization - fact
they have the most caffein allowable by law in their codffee - fact
They have NO COMPETITION in Moncton. None. We have one Grabbajabba, one Starbucks (in a bookstore) one Second Cup, but none of these have drive thrus. - fact
I dont drink coffee, but I do go to tims about once a week for a bagel. - fact
Every place I have ever worked, or shopped or had my car fixed at has made daily Tim-runs’. They gather money, one employee gets a list of coffee, and they go. Sometimes twice a day or more. The coffee is highly addictive because of its gruesome caffeine content. My fathers company for example, has 2 service trucks, each of which is expected to go through the drive through at least once a day for the staff. -facts
The ‘coincidence’ that her mechanic ( or whoever had the car) went through a tims drive through is not really a suprise. If you want coffee, and you dont want out of your car, you go to Tim’s. Thats all there is. There is not ONE OTHER coffee shop drive through in Moncton. ( there was a few years ago, but Tim Hortons shut 'em down).
I heard the same story as you did. I find it odd that anyone was contacted at work. I find it odd that they got the color of the car wrong. Maybe they misread the plate on the car. Maybe the cops knew the manager of the other store, and want to see her at work. (Not far fetched at all, everyone knows everone in a place this size!) Maybe he called her home and someone told him to try the store.
None of it matters anyway!
The point of the story was that a grown woman told angie that a family man wouldnt do that.
I have also heard many times over the past few years that the manager of the store ( Kiosk really) whose car was in question is an unreasonable witch. http://www.timhortons.com/english/english.html
I have an excerpt from the tim hoirtons website :
Bolding mine.
Angie has been with the company for I dunno…10 years? She rose from the lowest of the ranks to management of the biggest, busiest, most $$ producing store in this area.
I dont know whose car went through the drive through. Like I said, maybe they got the plate wrong. I dont care who it was.
But, if angie tells me that one of her staff came to her with this, then the staff will get Angie’s full support, and for what ever it is worth, Angie gets mine. If she told me aliens did it, that would be different, but some scuzzy guy in a tim hortons drive through is so NOT surprising I cant even express it. This kind of stuff happens all the time, she gets dopers, cops, drunks, teenagers…all walks of life, including perverts in the drive through. (As does every other drive through restaurant in Moncton)
The idea that the car was connected to anothe employee of the same company sounds far out till you figure out that there are about 20 stores ( not sure there) in this small area, and some of them have a staff of 30 or more. Its hard to find anyone in Moncton that has never worked for TH, or knows someone who does.
I firmly beleive that a poster has to be given the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves to be liars. All Ange’s other posts are innocous, not self-glorifying, and totally beleivable. Just because there is or isnt an urbal legend about masturbation in a drive through shouldnt be considered that something like this could happen to her. There was no arrest ( as in the UL) no wife accusing the hubby ( like the UL) In this case, all parties deny everything, and there is not enough evidence to do anything anyway.
Whats next? Are you guys going to demand I prove my mom has cancer? That my ex is a weasel? If I say I sell advertising, will I have to back it up with proof?
Nothing in the op indicates she is trying to make herself look better, she wasnt trying to dupe anyone…it was a simple: Hey, this crazy thing happened to me today! kind of story.
If we get to the point that we cant share anything in MPSIMS without having proof to back it up, they might as well close the whole forum, because EVERY op in here is a leap of faith by the reader.
I want to publicly apologize to Angie. I never should have brought you here (SDMB), and I am sorry I told you to post this
thread. I had no idea it would expose you to the kind of venom usually reserved for the hated trolls.
Sorry Ange.
GREAT! I think this is exactly the point everyone is trying to make. I did not post under the illusion that everyone would agree with me, but to call me nothing better than a liar…well I feel that was uncalled for, especially in MPSIMS where the protocol has IMO always been fun and games.
New and improved…and more controversial than ever.
Diane, it all depends on who is saying it, how they say it, and why they say it.
If a person has been known to play fast and loose with the truth in the past, it’s prudent to be dubious.
If the person presents something in a rude or obnoxious way, it’s normal to react to it negatively.
If a person says something for no other reason than to inflate his ego, it’s natural to want to prick the balloon.
I don’t see any of that in Angie’s post.
And lastly, a small claim requires small evidence. If you told me that you found a gold cup on the street I would believe you. If you told me that this was the cup that Jesus drank out of at the Last Supper, I would not.
I’m saying that Angie made a small claim. Yes, it’s unlikely, but it’s well within the realm of possibility. Weird stuff happens. Okay, it sounds like a UL. Coincidences happen. All the time.
I just don’t see why it’s necessary to call an inoffensive poster a liar when there’s no history of that. I don’t know the lady, but none of the posts I’ve seen from her ticked me off, and God knows I’m one of the crankiest bastards on this board.
Wally - I am not familiar with Angkins, nor is it relevent. I would have stated the exact same thing had it been written by you, Konrad, or anyone else.
Granted, I may have used harsh words when I said the dreaded “B.S.” word, but other than that, I offered my knowledge of an UL that is very similar to this story. I did this in a manner that was not rude (okay, with the exception of the “B.S.” word) nor did I attack her as claimed. I simply stated that I thought the story was B.S. MY OPINION! You know what they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. I have the right, just like you and everyone else here, to state my opinion.
Here, let me refresh some memories:
Then directly below that post:
So tell me, where did I attack the OP with extremely rude comments? I won’t C&P any more, but go back and see just who attacked who.
You didn’t use rude language. You were rude. Much different.
You called another poster a liar. When there was no reason to doubt the veracity of her story. She wasn’t proseltyizing nor was she asking people to tell others nor was it really that odd of a story.
So it was calling someone elses integrity into question when her integrity has never been an issue that was rude.
Imagine you tell a story and someone jumps in from no where and says, “Diane is a liar cause I heard something once.” Them calling you a liar is rude period. It doesn’t have to be coarse to be rude!
-Frankie
“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion
Angikins, it matters little to me if the story is true or not. Diane’s getting laid also fails to pique my interest. What I want to know is why the milk/sugar amounts in my Tim’s coffee vary so wildy every bloody day. One day, it’s full o’ milk and almost no sugar, the next day it’s like drinking maple syrup.
Is there a secret code that I can whisper into the drive thru mike to ensure a consistent cup? Please help!
And I will confirm that it is insanely addictive coffee.