Yup. Mary Cheney donated $1000 to Rob Portman, who is opposed to same-sex marriage and adoption by gays. Cheney, herself, is in a same-sex relationship, and she and her partner have a child.
So I guess it’s ok for two women to have a relationship and raise a child, so long as it doesn’t involve a marriage license or an adoption.
What makes it even more interesting is that her father, Dick Cheney, supports same-sex marriage because he has a gay daughter.
Or possibly Ms. Cheney disagrees with Portman’s stance on same-sex couples’ adoption and marriage rights, but agrees with him on other things?
I assume you don’t contend that because she’s gay, she must vote first and exclusively on the issue of gay rights - do you?
I could not support anyone who considered me a second-class citizen. How many black people would support a racist, even if they agreed with him on other issues?
Yeah, this is not analogous to other single-issue voting scenarios.
Voting against one’s economic self-interest or against one’s personal conviction on the hot-button issues* is an entirely different kettle of fish than voting against one’s right to get married or adopt a child.
*which, let’s face it, are not really all that important in terms of day-to-day living.
Michael Steele supports a whole party whose base and upper echelons consider him a second-class citizen, a party in which the go-to strategy for winning elections is black and hispanic voter suppression. Alan Keyes, same thing. Clarence Thomas, same thing.
Colin Powell at least has had moments of clarity.
And I (no surprise) absolutely agree with you on gay Republicans. I don’t fucking care how rich that party can make me. If I have to either stay in the closet to get it, or act in a completely amoral way toward other gay people to get it, I don’t even want the money.
Some people have a harder time with cognitive dissonance than others, I guess.
I am Hispanic, you know.
And how much money would you send to a politician who believed that Hispanics shouldn’t have the right to get married or adopt kids?
I thought your wife was Hispanic and you were non-Hispanic Caucasian. Tiny bit of ignorance fought.
I can’t speak for Bricker’s opinion, but I do think you missed the point there.
I do know. Your point? After the last five or six years of Republicans questioning the legitimacy of pretty much any person who might be mistaken for having Hispanic ancestry, I have to say that if I were Hispanic, I wouldn’t be pushing the “R” lever.
How you reconcile your political beliefs with the general tone of your chosen party toward your ethnicity is your deal.
My wife is Dominican, and although I was born here, my father was an immigrant from El Salvador.
So, both. 
Well, in my view, the GOP is not focused on race at all, but on legal status to vote. I have little sympathy for illegal aliens, and I don’t see any problem with assuring that someone who tries to vote (or work) is legally able to do so. So there’s not the slightest conflict in this area for me.
Assuming that this question was not already a matter of settled law, I’d be conflicted. I’d hate that aspect of their policy, but I’d weigh that against other positions they took. If they favored my being able to marry but wanted to destroy my rights, and others’ rights, to own guns, and wanted to guarantee the ability of others to legally kill unborn children, then I don’t know if I’d place marriage and adoption first on the list.
That’s a bit of a stretch. Bush pandered to the Hispanic community in his handling of several issues.
Bush was considerably at odds with Congressional Republicans on that. Remember Tom Tancredo?
True. For example, he’d frequently regale the “help” with his hilarious impression of the Frito Bandito.
I’m a lesbian and I frequently vote Republican. I’m very lucky to live in a country that values personal freedom. I’m also exceedingly lucky that gay activists have worked for decades to create a much friendlier and near-equal environment.
That said, gay rights don’t top my priorities list. I’m much more concerned with gun rights, taxes, resource management, censorship, and the rapid expansion of government. I wish there were more opportunities to vote Libertarian. I wish I could boot the crazy evangelicals and the wussy moderates out of the Republican party. However, I’m not going to vote Democrat just because they claim to be the party for gays, that would be utterly moronic.
Liberals and other gay people have given me a lot of shit over the years about being a conservative. My conservative friends have been nothing but supportive.
Mary Cheney always makes me feel better about being a gay conservative and it makes me mad that she takes so much flak.
I hope you’ll forgive me, then, for thinking you’re an idiot. Personally, I consider gay folks who support a party whose “base” would gladly toss you in a pit and stone you to be handing the mob the torches and pitchforks that are intended for use on themselves.
Gun rights, taxes, resource management, censorship and rapid expansion of government don’t mean much if you’re dead or in prison because of who you love.
And of COURSE your conservative friends are going to be supportive, in the short term. You’re one of their few tokens. “See? We’re not so bad? We don’t treat Chopper as worse than a second-class citizen! Come join the party!” Bleah.
I can at least cling to the hope that my votes cancel yours out.
I dunno about this one. I mean, if the Democrats actually supported gay rights, then it would be a no brainer, and I’d be right there beside jayjay in castigating queers who vote Republican. But, let’s face it, the vast majority of the Democratic party doesn’t give a shit about us. I can’t get all too worked up about someone figuring, “Fuck it, neither party is going to help me out, so I might as well vote for the party that supports the other issues I care about, and is actually going to do something about them.” At least the Republicans are upfront about wanting to throw us under a bus.
Of course, as far as I’m concerned, the other issues I care about are all covered by the Dems anyway, so I don’t really have another alternative. Then again, from where I’m sitting, the same goes for three out of the five other issues Chopper gave for voting Republican, so I don’t know what’s up with that.
My position is that, given a choice between two parties, one that doesn’t really give a shit about me and one that actively hates me, I’ll go with the indifferent one, if only so that I’m not supporting active persecution.
And I make a distinction between “the Republican Party” and “individual Republicans”. I’ve known individual Republicans that haven’t got a homophobic bone in their body. But the party, as an aggregate organism, is the Black Hole of homophobia.*
*For those who are going to claim that the Christian Right isn’t homophobic because they don’t HATE gay people, but just think that God disapproves, I answer that it doesn’t, in practical terms, make a difference to me WHERE their attempts to limit my freedom and make me lesser than them come from.