absolutely - no doubt about it - in fact, wasn’t that one of the things the FBI agents stated (that they believed) when trying to stay on the case?
Not to keep this going, but… wasn’t it? I mean, after they made Prince of Wales the title for the heir apparent to the English throne, doesn’t that kind of signal “part of the Kingdom of England”, at least as a political entity?
Wikipedia certainly seems to think so:
It’s even on their map:
Again, I really don’t care. It’s completely irrelevant to the show I’m watching.
Hey, conversation had just started to move past it until you brought it up again…
Apologies to all concerned.
Anyway… I think the elder Mrs. Lyon is going to be the real wild card in all of this. Does she make a turn, and, will it matter? Or will fate see to it that it doesn’t?
Getting back to the subject, though, I read some of the Reddit thread about the Wizard of Oz connection. I’m looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
What’s the Wizard of Oz connection? Other than the name (Dorothy) and the obvious dream sequence?
It was described upthread, in post 103.
So, I just skimmed that, and nothing really stuck out to me as “Of course!” It all seems very superficial and doesn’t really add anything interesting to the story other than maybe being something like an inside joke.
For me the “it’s a dream” moment was when Dot entered the lodge and everyone was sitting there watching the puppet show. When it was over you could hear applause, but nobody was clapping, they were all turned around looking at her. I said “Is she dreaming?” Which would explain why she ran out of gas after just having been at a truck stop – why wouldn’t you fill up while you were there?
We said the same thing - but we also had no idea how long she may have been driving since leaving the truckstop.
Also, she wakes up in bed and it was all a dream.
It hadn’t occurred to me that Linda, the first wife, was dead, but it seems obvious now.
Ignorance fought. Sorry about that. My family hails from NI, so I totally understand the importance of the distinction. I just misremembered.
I actually think the Wizard of Oz references are pretty interesting. The diner dream would be Dorothy in the poppy field. The Reddit thread linked above was pretty interesting. Everything points to Gator and Munch(kin) winding up on Dot’s team. Except that Munch will def be trying to kill Gator. I haven’t figured out who represents Oz. But then Dot hasn’t made it to the Emerald city yet.
I agree that Linda the first is probably dead. If she is, has Gator realized that? And if she’s not, then Dot was never really Roy’s wife.
The one thing I’m sure of is that Roy meets his end in that creepy chapel.
Given her age, it’s also possible that, regardless of Linda’s status, the purported marriage between Roy and Dorothy (or rather, Nadine) was a nonage, or at least voidable, given Dorothy’s age at the time. I am also guessing that Roy didn’t go through the trouble of getting the consent of Linda’s parent(s) or guardian (to the extent that might be required from someone under the age of 18 to legally marry–I am not well-versed in… North Dakota? law pertaining to marriage) given that she was (apparently) a runaway when she met him.
Dot’s husband is the cowardly Lyon
Gator is the tin man looking for a hart
Scarecrow is Munch (maybe teams up against Tillman?)
Just spitballing here.
Gator is the one who seems to lack brains. He’s the idiot son, right? Whereas Munch actually seems pretty sly–though a bit of a sociopath. So if parallels must be drawn, I’d swap them out.
But, again, I’m not finding the Wizard of Oz connections particularly meaningful. Not to say they aren’t there, just that they seem very superficial to me at this point and don’t really add anything in terms of subtext beyond what is already evident without making the Oz connection.
I think in the Reddit thread someone suggested Indira as the Tin Man (perhaps based on “tin” badges).
BTW, when Lorraine learned that Dot ran away from her marriage to Roy, I thought she would use that to show that Dot wasn’t legitimately married to Wayne.
That’s solid. Gator lacks a brain, a heart and let’s face it is seriously lacking in a lot of essential aspects of a functioning adult.