Father of 15 year old daughter here. My daughter is not ‘normal’ IMO but the saying ‘15 years old, looks like an 18 year old but acts like a 12 year old’ applies. The boys certainly do circle like vultures though!
My wife and I have been brutally honest with her and I think she has a good head on her shoulders. Honestly, she doesn’t seem that boy crazy yet though she does have a 17 year old boyfriend.
He’s a bit weird too…in that they seem more like friends than bf/gf.
I only ask that a boy wanting to go out with her not avoid me…if he isn’t tough enough to meet me before he goes out then that will get him on my bad side.
Otherwise, I trust my daughter. It is her life and she knows it. She definitely isn’t in a huryy to grow up and so the idea of having a kid seems like a strong fear to her.
I think too many people think ill of boys. Most boys are good people.
None of the Lord-Of-The-Untouched-Vagina posts have been funny. Behind every one of them is the same attitude that creates things like virginity pledges and purity balls, and that bothers me.
So while there is some Internet Tough Guy hyperbole that is obvious, the underlying sentiment is all too commonly uttered in all seriousness.
I don’t have any more ability to laugh at the idea that all girls are fragile little butterflies whose purity must be protected than I do at the idea that all boys are disgusting potential rapists who can only be prevented from violent action by means of threat.
Clearly, anybody who takes this shit as overly-seriously as you are doing is somebody I don’t want to talk with today. One hopes you can find other threads less upsetting to you.
I hope to use the time I would’ve spent worrying about the Evil Boys making sure my daughter is healthy and confident and can make her choices well. Well, and crossing my fingers.
But why is it that fathers in general never make jokes about their sons having sex, unless it’s in a positive sense? I don’t think these jokes are inherently harmful, but the fact that there is a stereotype of it being awesome for a boy to get laid but harmful for a girl just bothers me. But maybe one day we’ll be enlightened enough where dads will joke about high fiving their sons and their daughters after their first time.
This. I don’t think my mom was doing it on purpose - I was bald til I was nearly 3, so she always put pink, ruffled and laced within an inch of their lives bonnets on me so people would know I was a girl.
Did you read the post of Oakminster’s I linked to in the OP? He claimed that he didn’t want his daughter dating till she was 30.
It’s the overprotective dad thing, of course. Though brothers do it too. (Admittedly, when my baby sister began dating, my prime concern was that the boys would be moronic rather than overly aggressive. On one of her first days I slipped her 50 bucks in case the boy tried anything necessitating a cab ride home, and though she didn’t need it for that, she did end up using it because the guy severely underestimated how much dinner was going to cost.)
Probably for the same reason that you rarely hear fathers talking about how girls aren’t good enough for their son, or mothers sharpening knives when their daughter’s boyfriends come over. We have been socialized that fathers guard their daughters virtue while encouraging their sons to sow their oats, and mothers try to steer their sons to the “right kind” of girl, while encouraging their daughters to marry up. These memes are not as accepted as they once where, but that “10 rules” BS was relevant enough to become a sitcom a few year ago.
BTW to those who think this was moved to the pit due to stick in ass syndrome, I know more than one person in real life who has made very similar statements about sharpening knives or swords, loading guns, running chainsaws, etc. in complete seriousness. They were convinced they would need to violently protect their delicate flowers from marauding hordes. Often with the justification used here that they were marauders themselves.
This whole thread reminded me of a thread on Fark back when the 10 rules thing was big. That thread was full of posts form older guys making the same bombastic statements here, but also had a bunch of high school guys responding that they would kick the ass of any father that tried that and then have sex with the daughter right in the living room. It was a practically an orgy of internet tough guys calling each other out across the generational divide.
Hey, I didn’t make up the stereotypes, I was just joking about them.
It probably would be in bad taste to joke about how many girls one’s son has fucked. At least what’s being made fun of in this thread has root in something moral – watching out for one’s child.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, my 16 year old son is desperately in love with my best friend (who’s my age, 34) and it’s caused a huge amount of tension in our household recently. She doesn’t have a great track record of self-restraint around men, and she’s got a taste for 'em young. (Not illegal young, but ten years younger than herself young.) It’s quite a quagmire - she can get him to do anything (like his homework, working out, helping around the house) just by telling him he should, so we don’t want to forbid her mentorship, but there’s this constant worry that the two of them are going to slip into Inappropriate Territory, and my husband’s losing his mind over it.
If it makes you feel any better. It doesn’t make me feel any better. It’s a huge worry for me right now.
That just opens up whole new areas of macho posturing bull shit (MPBS). My brother-in-law just recently freaked out because his 3 year old son was playing with a doll at my mother-in-law’s.
Hm. I think I see a pattern to MPBS. It is all about enforcing sexual mores and gender roles of 50 years ago. Sons must want to sleep with any and all females, and daughters have to be defended from other people’s sons.
I’m not picking on you (and the above would worry me as well), but what if the teen in question were your daughter and the man your husband’s best friend? I’m sure you would still worry, but-- ?
This thread may have started out light hearted, but it touches on stuff that isn’t light hearted at all. I’d rather all my kids made smart sexual decisions. I have no hang ups about Daughter needing to be a virgin when she marries or #1 son marrying a virgin etc. If I did stress no means no to my son a bit, I also tried to instill into my daughter that cockteasing is a shitty thing to do. I find I’m agreeing with **catsix **re this thread. It may all be in fun, but it’s not funny.
You know, I still consider you a friend, but after thinking about this a bit, I really resent the way you phrased your post; especially that last sentence.
Fuck you, catsix.
Fuck you and your aggrieved feminist “everything is about my cunt” attitude.
I honestly think less of you after this than I did previously. You were never one of the offenderatti before.
I hope you recover soon.
That’s up to you, Scumpup. You know I’ve never pulled a punch in my life, and that includes when I disagree with you.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a feminist. Not everything is about my, or any other chick’s, cunt. Though I would say I’m correct in my assertion that this issue, the issue of the horndog boy and the pure-as-driven-snow girl is most definitely about cunt.
And I’m still not. I’ve made it clear for years prior to this thread how I feel about the double-standard of attitude when it comes to daughters and sons with respect to sexuality.
I’ve never hidden the fact that I think girls are sold a line of bullshit about how they have to guard their purity and they’ll be emotionally devastated for the rest of their life if they fuck some guy in high school they don’t care about.
I’ve never hidden the fact that I think boys are sold a line of bullshit about how they aren’t a man unless they can fuck some chick and walk away like nothing happened as soon as she falls asleep.
Those are my opinions, and I will not apologize for them.