Holy shit! And to think I took German as my foreign language in college (and even wound up on the Dean’s List once)!!!
No thanks, whoever wrote that is taking the whole fucking shit too seriously! 
I have GOT to share that with my former German professor, Ken Sapp, I know he’d get a kick out of it!
But thanks, carniverousplant for including this!
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Cleavon would have made a better “Spearchucker” in the original MAS*H, IMO.
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Cleavon would have been better than most anybody in anything. It’s a shame he was so amazing in “Blazing Saddles” and “Vanishing Point” and never broke through. That link is mind-blowing, above. Holy shit.
Oh, I get it – it’s the Twain essay. Funny, if you’re aged 150! (I’m kidding, of course).
ETA that was a good catch, Quasi – I noticed that too, and that’s why I came up with my little theory that Brooks doesn’t really know Yiddish, or German. He just goes for the comedy.
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Thanks, buddy!
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You’re velcome, bienvenue, come on in!
Cut the bullshit; what do you want?
You guys need to help me on this one, but isn’t there some theory that Native Americans may have intermixed with Jews at some time? Please don’t tell me I’m meschugge, I already know that, and also please don’t take this as a put-down, because it isn’t meant that way.
I really think I might have seen this on the History Channel recently.
Help please?
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A friend. Just a friend.
And I think I’ve got one, oder?
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Probably, I guess, at some time. It’s a not bad hypothesis, but why more jews than goyim? I don’t know.
ETA you got a friend in me, man! Anyone who pilgrimages for Beethoven is a right meshugge mamzer!
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You got a right big ol’ laff outta the German Boy with that last line, my friend! Thanks very much. I don’t laugh much these days and all are appreciated!
I’m a meschuggener Mamzer. Did I write that correctly?(I wonder how they’d feel about me calling myself that in my hometown of Rothenburg o d Tauber?;))
Ludwig, “Der Maestro”. Oh my God, J! you and I could sit and talk (and me, cry) about him for days.
My heart longs to find him and apologize and thank him for his many gifts!
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Now you’re going to make me shed some tears. Some other thread about intro to classical music made me remember how important hearing the Op. 126 Bagatellen and all of the Sonatas were. I wouldn’t be the same person today without having the example of Beethoven AND his interpreters.
And I’m not even an old bastard like you!!! But it doesn’t depend upon being of an age, but of a sensibility, IMO. You and I are friends, of the same age because nobody else gives two shits about this stuff.
Everyone has mixed with everyone else at some time.
Chronos, have I possibly pissed you off at some time?
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Jaledin, I listen to him differently than most people, I think. I listen and imagine his composing the work, straining to hear his notes and make the music flow.
Many see him as an irascible old bastard (much like me - only more talented), but he had so much spiritual love in his heart for humanity it’s heartbreaking to read how his most important sense was taken away. His letters are filled with so much pathos and self effacing verbage - especially his Heiligenstadt Testament. I try not to read it too often because it really does pull at your heart.
I am no music theorist and a piss-poor musician, but I am totally in love with the man and his music. I am just so sorry he had to fight for every penny he earned and died so miserably.
Many of his symphonies, sonatas, etc. were dedicated to German/Austrian nobility who probably had no idea what a wonderful gift they were given.
And J? I think you and I just hijacked the living hell out of this thread!
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One thing that really kills me about the broadcast edit of this movie - I have NEVER seen them leave the campfire scene intact. The sound effects are dubbed over with horses making horse noises… Because, yanno, we can’t corrupt the youth of America with fart sounds on TV… :rolleyes:
I do love this movie, tho.
Is it possible that you saw Cat Ballou? If my memory serves me, and it may not, one of the older characters had the theory that Native Americans (maybe not all but some) were from the Lost Tribes of Israel. If that’s where I saw/heard that, I interpreted it as a joke (a la Blazing Saddles) and not a real serious “theory” held by anybody with credentials. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mel Brooks got the idea from that movie!
This is an actual serious belief from Mormonism.
Which, despite its not originating in Cat Ballou, doesn’t make it any less fictional.
Not that I know of. If you read any hostility into what I said, I assure you, it wasn’t intended.
It might be, Zeldar or I got it from the History Channel. But that Lost Tribes of Israel phrase does ring a bell, although I don’t believe the Native Americans spoke Yiddish!
Was there also a “Yiddish Indian” scene in The Frisco Kid?
Chronos, all is well. Just struck me as a little terse. Thanks for the reassurance.
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Chief emerges from his tepee:
"I have read this book, ‘Torah’…
Didn’t understand a damn thing."