Gotcha. That sounds like a reasonable estimate to me.
I’m basically a Hillary supporter, but I have to confess that I think her behavior goes beyond ignorance and strays into the territory of willful disregard for operating procedures. Hillary got a little too big for her suit pants and decided she knew more about security than her own IT security people. Hillary’s not always this foolish, but foolish this most certainly was. Her critics, Trumpers and Sandernistas alike, can criticize her fairly in this instance.
Benghazi was a big Ben-nothing. Time to move on.
It was the Al Capone’s vault of modern times.
That attempt to paint an equivalence is complete bullshit. McCain was a moderate who was willing to work with the other side to make bipartisan deals that were good for the nation, and he got full and due credit for it. He was also a military hawk, and was rightly criticized for it. I don’t recall any responsible media calling him an “unhinged bloodthirsty warmonger”. I certainly never did, and never thought it. His undoing was the combination of the Palin effect, IMHO, which was an unprecedented case of poor judgment, and an exceptionally strong campaign by Obama.
Similarly with Romney. I don’t recall any responsible media trying to smear him as “hate-filled”, and in the eyes of many, he wasn’t even a “right-winger”, let alone a “hate-filled” one. He was disingenuous if not outright hypocritical in trying to represent himself as much more conservative than he really was, and he was a bad choice for president mainly because this perception forced him to embrace Paul Ryan voodoo economics which would have been disastrous. He was also out of touch with ordinary people, and the leaked speech simply showed that he had given up on trying to gain the support of the lower economic echelons, not that he “hated” them.
It’s hard to find words for Trump simply because on most measures, such as blatant bigotry, misogyny, and transparent stupidity, there has not to my knowledge been an idiot of this magnitude running for major political office anywhere in any developed country in living memory.
So the Republic Party members are now complaining that Republic Party Member Comey, appointed by Bush jr, who donated to both Romney and McCain is somehow bought off by Clinton or what? Biased?
Give up, Republics. She’s too smart for you. You’ve tried for 25 years. You lose.
Can you name a single person who has gone to prison for leaving a HIPAA-covered server vulnerable?
I can find only a handful of criminal prosecutions for HIPAA violations, and in every case the person prosecuted deliberately and intentionally stole the records (like the guy who sent personal information about 228,000 Medicaid recipients to his personal email, apparently planning to sell the names and Social Security numbers, or the woman who stole patient information from nursing homes and used it to submit $10 million in phony bills).
I have a couple of questions that may have been answered a long time ago, but a couple of things aren’t clear to me:
If she was SoS for 6 or so years, why did this only become news recently? I’m sure out of the thousands of e-mails sent over that time someone would have leaked that her e-mails never seemed to come from a .gov address and since this is apparently such a big deal, why didn’t it make the news and trigger an investigation?
Didn’t she also use the secure networks SIPRnet and JWICS? So that virtually all classified information she exchanged were over these networks and only received spillage on her home server? A lot of the public seems to think she stored all her communications on her home server but I doubt that’s the case.
They didn’t have to pay him – just hint that he could be the next Clinton Secret Murder Victim.
The email thing didn’t come to light until the Benghazi investigation happened. I doubt there was likely to be the information available to someone to notice it before then.
She clearly didn’t use the home server exclusively; as I understand it, that was for private email.
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In most other elections it never would have been brought up unless that other candidate’s last name was also “Clinton”.[/QUOTE
In most other elections, it would never have been brought up unless that other candidate was a woman. An uppity woman.
So it’s your understanding that the emails that “contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time” was of a private nature?
Ugh. I can’t believe I’m about to say this.
I actually think adaher is right that that if the GOP had credible candidate it’s likely that, even though no charges will be filed, HRC’s chances to win the presidency would have taken a serious, perhaps devastating blow, at least on the “trustworthiness” front. The most damning part is the dismantling of almost every defense Clinton held about her use of her own email server.
It’s a long time until November, and it’s highly unlikely that Trump, Inc. can sustain a sufficiently potent attack to make anything out of this. But even a milquetoast-quality candidate such as Romney might seriously have been able to ride it out to a victory.
It’s far too late for that now, though.
Yeah, that “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” jingle of his – SO overplayed. :rolleyes:
Gee, if only the Democrats hadn’t held a gun to his head and made him spew out that “47%” comment…oh, wait. They didn’t.
Maybe, just maybe, the reason Republican candidates get painted this way is… well, if it walks like a duck…
Justified in view of subsequent behavior. He bangs the drum to go to war often and loudly. Offhand I can’t think of a senior senator of either party who does so as frequently.
I don’t think he was described as “hate-filled” as much as cold, elitist, and out-of-touch. Which he is.
Now we do have someone who can be fairly described as “hate-filled.” Not to mention narcissistic, ignorant, ego-maniacal, misogynist, and racist.
Because (a) you’re not the Secretary of State, and (b) Clinton’s server wasn’t full of “patient information.” i.e., no secret or classified information went to it, only her email messages.
So, hey, if this was the ocean, I could put a message in a bottle, if I had a bottle, and if I had a piece of paper, and if I could write, and if this wasn’t the desert instead. Oh, well, it was a good idea.
“See, when OUR side dismisses the candidates supported by roughly half the country as extremist crazies, it’s because they really are.”
Support from “roughly half the country” (a gross exaggeration; they were merely supported by rather less than half of those who voted) would in no way validate a claim that they’re not in fact “extremist crazies.”
But of course, neither McCain nor Romney were broadly thought of as extremist crazies by Democrats. The claim that they did is a straw man at best.
The server was set up for the purpose of receiving and sending private email, as I understand it. Period. No more, no less.
Ah, yes, the old “all the people that don’t vote are on my side.”
I guess I totally imagined those weeks of debate about how stupid shit Romney did in high school made him a homophobe, or how McCain was racist because he called himself “this one” and Obama “that one.”. It must be only Republicans that engage in sliming and grievance manufacturing.
Well perhaps someday they’ll see the light. Maybe someday they’ll nominate a real centrist; say some guy who supports raising taxes on the wealthy, echoes Bernie Sanders on trade, openly repudiates Bush-era foreign policy, supports Planned Parenthood and generally declares himself a culture wars non-combatant. We can only dream about that kind of a centrist GOP , right?