If the total number of prosecutors disbarred and jailed in the last few months = one, it is.
But it’s misleading at best to say that, though. If there’s been one x disbarred and jailed in the last few months, it doesn’t make sense to generalize based on x’s characteristics.
And he didn’t even get laid.
Good point, Cap’n Carrot! And I bet the point still holds if you replace the word “disbarred” with the phrase “arrested for trying to molest a five-year-old.” A misleading thing to say, indeed.
No, they (we) don’t. “Many” Republicans (and I assume you’re talking about politicians here and not the Republican citizenship) are not the ones committing immoral crimes. There are thousands of Republican politicians in this country and not but a mere handful have been accused of these types of offenses. So, despite BrainGlutton’s ridiculous assertion in the OP that Republican politicians “are all a bunch of sanctimonious hypocritical pervs!”, it’s perfectly obvious that such criticism can only be levelled at a very small percentage of Republican politicians, and, as has already been noted, it’s ridiculous to attempt to paint Republicans at large, whether politicians or just plain citizens, with a broad brush such as this.
Not a mensch, but a schmuck.
I’m glad you realize that. Of course neither party has any more claim to morality than the other. I’m also very sure that there are many people who don’t understand this, and who actually believe that Republicans are more moral.
Surely, this isn’t news to you. Why, it’s been over two decades since the “Moral Majority.” Just google “immoral democrats” and you get lots of examples. Here’s the very first one that comes up, from World News Daily:
Hell, there was a book being promoted on a national level that called the Democrats the “party of death.”
Perhaps you can fault me for ever hoping that reality might pervade the crazy sphere of delusion surrounding people who believe such things. I’m surprised however that anyone would argue that the Republicans have not tried to make a claim on having superior moral values.
Oddly enough, “immoral republicans” comes up with more than a few hits as well. Not from an obscure columnist no one has ever heard of, but a member of Congress. Cite.
There’s a Mr. Kettle on line 1 to speak with you…
Regards,
Shodan
C’mon. We can pass moral judgment and make policy based on moral considerations. It probably isn’t wise to make morality the only consideration in doing so, but barring morality wouldn’t be prudent either.
I’m sure Hentor would agree with this, considering that he has used moral arguments in the past when they were applicable to his points.
All of this is a side issue, though, since even the most libertine freethinking potsmoking anarchist would probably recoil at the thought of hurting kids. So would Democrats and Republicans and the aforementioned Jaycees and Rotarians and ACLU members. A properly developed moral code tells us not to hurt kids. Period.
So this discussion of morality is moot. The Democrats will accuse Republicans if being immoral when it comes to war and health care policy. The Republicans will fire back with charges of immorality when it comes to abortion and crime policy. The ACLU has been accused of being immoral more times than I can count, and I’m sure someone somewhere has accused the Rotarians of immorality because of their rubber-chicken lunches.
No sane person accuses an organization of immorality because a child molester or two shows up. For that to stick, it would have to be a big systematic pattern like the Catholic Church scandal.
I think for the first time ever, that Mr. Moto and I agree, essentially, on two separate issues within the span of one week.
Morality, in its meaning akin to ethics, is involved in all decision making. I feel perfectly comfortable in discussing why I think the moral decision making involved in certain policy decisions relative to another is suspect or questionable. I don’t think I would use the term “immoral” in quite the fashion that Gephardt does in that quote. I would rather set the morals evident behind one choice against another. I think the term “immoral” casts the conflict in an unreasonable absolute sense.
Where I have a problem is the use of the broader sense of “morality” to suggest that one party is full of “crusaders for perversion, licentiousness or worse.” I have a problem with appeals to the authority of a “moral majority” that is somehow more pure, decent, or righteous. These aren’t based on specific claims, usually, but on some broad and vague unsubstantiated fundamental difference.
So, I don’t point to an incident like this to say that the Republicans are less “moral” than the Democrats, but rather than they have no claim to superior “morality”.
But they (we - yes, I’m a registered Republican) have put ourselves into this position. We’re the ones who ran around making wild accusations against all Democrats, saying that every Democrat is a Godless liberal who hates America and promotes terrorism. So we shouldn’t get sanctimonious when the tactics of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Anne Coulter get used back against us.
Other than Ann Coulter (and maybe a few other nut-jobs) can you give us an example of someone saying that “every Democrat is a Godless liberal who hates America and promotes terrorism”? I mean, really… that is just such an absurd exaggeration, I don’t see how you expect anyone to take it seriously.
Hector quoted John Farah above:
You conceded Ann Coulter:
Here’s Rush Limbaugh:
Here’s Sean Hannity:
These are not fringe figures. These are people who have major media forums, who are granted access and interviews with Republican politicians, and who are asked to speak at Republican conventions, and who endorse Republican candidates and are endorsed by them in turn.
This piece of shit human hanged himself today. Story here. Doesn’t appear to be any great loss to humanity.
I’m inclined to agree.
Every convicted child molester (yes I know he wasn’t convicted and he wasn’t even accused of molesting anybody) should be given a copy of Final Exit, instead of putting them on some stupid public list. That’s how the justice system should treat these kind of criminals.
Excellent!
I dunno, sexual hypocrisy seems to be VERY Republican. Others may engage in it to some extent, but it’s the Republicans who really, really get into it.
Nemo, nicely done. I am so sick of hearing this “fringe figures” claim for outrageous Republican claims, when it’s obvious that the major Republican media figures do it all the time. You really nailed it here.
This particular group repeatedly presents itself as the bastion of morality in our society and paints the opposition as moral degenerates. When official representatives of the group and persons representing justice in our society violate the living shit out of the very morality their group proclaims, it’s powerful evidence of hypocrisy.