Feedback please...

I’m having some weirdness going on with my computer… it put some really weird characters into a post I made last night! So, please give some feedback on how these lines look to you guys:

This was cut and pasted from MS Word: can¡¯t won¡¯t wouldn¡¯t couldn¡¯t don¡¯t didn¡¯t

This was cut and pasted from WordPad: can’t won’t couldn’t wouldn’t

This was typed right into the new reply box on the SDMB: can’t won’t couldn’t wouldn’t

So, anyone see any weird characters? If so, where are they?

Thanks all!

PS: all the above lines look perfectly normal on my comp…

It’s MS Word, Astroboy. Why, I have no idea. But it’s the only line that is screwed on my screen, all the rest are fine. Basically, it seems to reading every apostrophe you type in as some weird code and instead inserting a subscripted i, followed by a superscripted dash ( I think that’s the right description - the i is set low, the dash is set across the top ).

Weirdness.

-Tamerlane

On my display, the MS Word line has the weird characters. All the other ones are OK. I’m suspecting that it has to do with multilanguage support, but that’s probably as helpful as telling you that I live on the third planet from the Sun. FWIW, (somehow) my browser displays CJK characters even though I (don’t think) I installed any of those fonts.

Thank you guys!

Now that I have it narrowed down to Word, maybe I can figure out why it’s doing that…:wink:

Tamerlane’s post gave me an idea - MS Word is probably automatically changing the apostrophe you type (it’s, can’t, etc.) into “real” quotes, which are not part of the standard characters on a keyboard, and this is probably causing a collision with your CJK character sets (I assume you have one). Exactly how, I have no idea, but you may want to root around in Word’s options and at least turn off this feature (I think it’s under AutoCorrection) for the time being.

For a quick background on apostrophes vs. curly quotes, go here and here.

I suspect Earthling is correct. If you want to test it out the setting is under

Tools --> AutoCorrect --> AutoFormat as you type

and clear the ‘straight quotes with smart quotes’ check box.

Then try it again and see if that works. You may want to clear some of the other check boxes too, try it out and see if it causes problems.

All this assumes that your using a version of word that has that setting in the same place as my version.

SpaceDog

I gotta run right now, but I’ll try that out later tonight… maybe that will work! Thanks Space and Earth!:wink:

OK… I’ve unchecked the “straight quotes with smart quotes” box, so let’s see if it makes any difference…

The following line was cut and pasted from Word with the new settings:

can¡¯t won¡¯t didn¡¯t etc¡¦.

Any weird characters, anyone?

Wierd characters subsituted with *****

cant wont didnt etc.

So they are still there, and I’m afraid I don’t have any suggestions as to why.

A quick thought ,probably not relevant however, what language is your Operating System.

Yep, they are still there.
You are pasting in words that are already “Autocorrected” though.
Try typing them in anew.

Let me try it again then (thanks atarian!)…

can¡¯t didn¡¯t won¡¯t
still there?

I closed Word, re-opened it (checked to see if the setting was still unchecked), and then typed, cut and pasted…

I suspect that they’re still there…

You suspect correctly . . .

Check you regional settings, and your keyboard settings from under the control pannel.

Well I’m stumped now.

It’s strange your symbol is being replaced by two characters (ASCII 161 and 175 in case that means anything) not just one.

When you type it in word it looks normal, yes ? And continues to look normal when pasted and used on the page ?

Does the apostrophe (in Word) slant to the left, right or not at all ?

That and the language/keyboard questions that Gartog asked.

I’m afraid that I’m running out of ideas …

SpaceDog

I’m running Win 98 SE, English version… at least on my home comp, which I use to do 99% of my posting.

When I cut and paste from Word, it doesn’t look completely normal… it seems to add a space in the apostrophed word. IE: if I type “don’t” in Word, and then cut and paste it here, it comes out “don’ t”… but it doesn’t seem to matter if I take out that extra space or not.

Oh, well, no big deal… I’ll just have to remember not to write long posts in Word. I can use wordpad…

Thanks guys!:wink:

Oh! It’s a curly-cue apostrophe, but it doesn’t seem to have a slant to it at all…

A-ha! Curly-cue apostrophe, just as I suspected! So that is the culprit - but you’ve turned off AutoCorret in MS Word, the question now is how is it getting in there anyway? Hmm…lemme root around Word for a minute…OK, now - I’m running Word XP, and under Tools > AutoCorrect Options, there are several tabs, one of which is “AutoFormat As You Type,” which I believe is the option you’ve turned off, but there is another tab with just plain-ol’ “AutoFormat,” where “smart quotes” is one of the options - do you have that somewhere in your version of Word? If so, you’ll need to turn that off as well. Good luck.

Another couple of questions: Do you yourself see the funny characters in the “reply” box when you paste them in? How about in the finished post? if the answer to either or both is “yes”, then do you use Internet Explorer? Just a hunch.

What version of Word is this? Also, is there a point on what we can see? I mean, why can’t you see it yourself when you preview a message?

can’t, won’t, don’t, shouldn’t, musn’t, ain’t

“I have no idea how Miz LaRue’s stockings got into the back seat of my limosine!” the Senator protested

Above cut-and-pasted from Word with auto-correct, smart quotes OFF.

shan’t musn’t couldn’t mighn’t

“My panties! The chimp has my panties!” Ms LaRue cried

Above cut-and-pasted from Word with auto-correct, smart quotes ON
Tested in preview, everything looks fine. Posting.

See next post for results.

Also possible explaination for sentence fragments.

Or not.

:wink:

Fenris