Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin indicted in Ivy League bribery scheme

I didn’t get the impression these parents wanted the cache of a degree, or even one from a big name school. They wanted their kids to have the college experience, the parties, friends and fun times part. USC especially is very well regarded on this front it seems.

Financial crime, bribery, corruption of processes, and money laundering are crimes for a reason. White collar crime shouldn’t get a pass in my opinion.

And the ‘anyone would do anything’ for their child defence needs stomping on HARD. That belies a level of entitlement that is screaming to be made an example of, on optics alone.

I’m not making excuses for rich people, I’m making excuses for non-violent first (and likely last) time offenders. And if this isn’t a victimless crime, it’s pretty close.

It is NOT a victimless crime, nor is it anywhere close to one. For every rich, snot-nosed brat who got into college in this manner, a well-deserving student was denied a place. These parents deserve jail, every last one of them.

Yes, I’m sure there’s some hardworking coxswain from an impoverished family in Compton that could have gotten that spot Olivia Jade took. :rolleyes:

WTF?

Why shouldn’t non-violent crimes rate jail time? You think embezzlement doesn’t matter? Fraud? Sorry, no - money laundering is a felony, it gets jail time. Fraud on this level is a felony, it gets jail time.

What shouldn’t happen is that prison becomes a place of violence in and of itself. Maybe if the rich had to go to prison for their crimes, too, they’d pay more attention and we’d get real reform on that front.

And given how many of these dimwads are effin’ clueless that they were, in fact, committing felonies I see no reason to assume that would NOT re-offend again. If they aren’t punished I’d expect them to reoffend,

We shouldn’t have a system that intentionally or unintentionally creates the results that crimes likely to be committed by poor people more harshly punished than crimes likely to be committed by rich people.

Should we include those on an athletic scholarship that are generating large sums of money for a school?

I personally believe each and every one of them are rocket surgeons but there’s always a chance that multi-million dollar athletic departments find a way around scholastic requirements.

Some might but mostly they shouldn’t because prison should mainly be used to remove people from society that really pose a danger to others. Some fraudsters really do pose a danger. But hey, you’re free to enjoy the insane prison population levels if that’s your kick.

The way to reduce prison populations is to not imprison people who have minor drug offenses. That would make a difference. A couple of celebrities won’t.

Huffman and Loughlin have already re-offended. They just didn’t get caught the first time. That they won’t re-offend now is because they don’t have any more kids. It’s not a valid reason to go easy on them.

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OK, fine - you don’t want them to go to jail.

How about we just strip them of every last dime they have? These rich, self-entitled folks are employed so they’ll be able to earn more money, but let’s strip them of their current wealth and use it to fund scholarships for kids who don’t have rich, self-entitled bitches for mothers.

Today if you steal $10 from a store, you’re going down; steal $10 million from your bank’s customers and people feel that not getting your 7 figure firing bonus is awful punishment.
Why would people thinking of committing fraud not do it if the worst that can happen to you assuming you get caught is giving back a portion of the loot?

Can you cite an example of someone “goiing down” over petty theft?

this is what I never understood . Why pay huge bribes for the party experience, when you can get the parties for free* at any large university?.

Any school with “state” in the name, a couple dozen fraternity houses on campus, another dozen dorms, a big football stadium,etc—equals PARTY away!
Oh, and if you happen to want to get an education on the side, it’s available, too. But it’s pretty easy to avoid all that hard work :slight_smile:

  • by “free”, I mean free from bribery and illegal activities.
    Paying the basic tuition fee is no problem for these folks.

Any uni wasn’t good enough for their ego. They wanted to say that their kids qualified to get in to the right school.

…where they would be partying, tailgating etc. with the -right- crowd.

Let me help you with that.

Just do some Googling! Good grief.

Here’s one tale of a guy was given a 30 year sentence, later upgrade to a life sentence (and dying in prison) for a $14 theft.

It is incredibly trivial to find stories like this.

Which is why it is so upsetting to see people defending “white collar”, “unlikely to repeat”, “victimless” crime committing rich people all the time.

I … just … don’t … get … it.

You steal $50 from a store and you’re life is ruined. You steal $50 million and somehow the phrase “too big too fail” gets applied to you despite your not being the company in question.

These are big crimes in relative terms. Good length prison sentences are an absolute must if we are to have a fair society.

And keep in mind, again. that there’s virtually no discussion in this thread about the even more evil financial people who are just as guilty as the actresses. If they do this sort of illegal crap in their personal lives, what are they doing with their clients’ money???

Sure they could party anywhere, but these helicopter parents need them nearby, plus the California climate makes it very enviable, access to Hollywood parties, red carpets, they’ll be mixing with the right type, and close enough to still easily benefit from their parents fame and influence. The Uni has a reputation for a great ‘lifestyle’ experience!

You’re life is ruined when you repeatedly commit crimes. Not from a singular event.

So down the field the goalposts go. First; nobody’s life is ruined by petty theft. Second; nobody’s life is ruined by a single instance of petty theft.

The kid I posted about took his grandma’s car without permission, received probation for it and got his probation revoked for a curfew violation. He was beaten and suffocated to death by eight guards who were acquitted in their manslaughter trials. So; two events. I guess you’re right, he must have had it coming.