damn. sorry I misspelled Lissa’s name. it was unintentional.
I still maintain that Lissa has been put, on occasion, into a “damned if you do, damned of you don’t” situation. Next time a thread comes up in which her input is applicable, I’m curious to see if she can do so without everyone watching for her to fuck up (according to their definition.) In the thread she linked to in the OP, I thought she was quite careful not to step on toes she’d allegedly stepped on in the thread Jodi linked (and having read THAT thread as well, I think Lissa adequately disclaimer-ed her input - “I said some, I said many, I am only giving possible explanations, etc.”)
of course you feel that way. because no one has made any valid point.
Snerk. Consider the source. 
Consider:
–It’s hard to change something you do unconsciously. Yes, it’s been pointed out again and again, and I’m sure she WANTS to change it, but hasn’t been able to. Tone is hard to get a handle on. It’s a problem a lot of people have and few people ever get under control. What you wind up doing is apologizing, which she has done. Give her a break.
–Now she’s going to be so self-conscious, even moreso than before. Last time she tried to change, she just omitted her source, which was her husband. It didn’t help.
–People will likely still give her shit, no matter what she does. Trying to change to please others is a thankless and often fruitless venture.
To me Lissa is no more supercilious, condescending, or full of shit than many other posters, and at least she gives a damn if she’s insulting people or being rude, which makes her better than most. I think the task she’s been given is herculean and a bit unfair. I wish her the best with all this, but I’m not sure how she would negotiate it to everyone’s satisfaction.
Lissa? We all have issues. When we are posting on a message board that has a BBQ pit, we might be called on them. You have been called on them, and this time you asked for it.
No one is perfect, and we’ll NEVER be perfect. However, the way I see it? It is never a bad thing to examine the things that are said about us. You might examine the things that are said and decide that everyone who said anything negative about you is wrong. If so, continue as you have. Or, you might decide that there was some truth to what was said and work on growing and changing. It doesn’t have to mean that you have some kind of major problem, it might just mean that you have to work on how you present yourself. Not that you have to make any kind of major life or personality changes…just that you need to work on the way you present yourself, your beliefs. Your knowledge.
I have found that there is often at least a grain of truth in anything that is said about me, and I have benefited by it. It isn’t fun, and it hurts sometimes. It hurts a LOT sometimes. But I have found that even if my motives were questioned and people were wrong about that…the way I was talking about things, or presenting myself in re: these things? I had to rethink it, and sometimes I have realized that I had an area I needed to work on. There have also been times when I did some serious soul searching and truly believed that the negative comments were not warranted. Which allowed me to stay strong in who I am, and let it go…because I was willing to think about it, without being defensive, and therefore I was able to determine whether or not I had some issue that I needed to work on.
We all have areas in our lives that we need to work on. I’ve never met a perfect person.
I’m not saying that I have a problem of any kind with you, or your posts. I am just saying that a lot of people seem to have issues with your posting style, and that perhaps it would be a good thing for you to think about it. Honestly, and without feeling defensive about it.
Be well.
I believe it’s been spelled out enough that if she does not intend tp come off authoriatan, she’ll learn how to succeed.
I also believe that it is possible that she’ll continue to write off criticism with “they’re mean” types of shit, especially w/all the enablers around.
time will tell.
An example of what I’m talking about in my previous post is this thread. Without starting shit up with alice again, I do think Lissa is contorting herself and apologizing for her own knowledge in an incredible effort to avoid offending alice, who is pretty dismissive of what is admittedly Lissa’s area of expertise.
Is Lissa expected to kiss up and mince around like this to avoid the authoritative “tone” that so upsets people around here? What do people think of how that thread about Goya went down?
Then why don’t you know that you come off like Snotly McBitchface the Queen Bee in this thread?
Word.
to some, Im sure.
and to others, Lissa does.
Difference is, I don’t cry and say “they’re being mean, I’m not doing anything wrong”.
My first attempt w/ her in the jail med thread was very polite, suggesting that her ‘experience’ in prison regs weren’t really germane to the issue of jails. she ignored that, and continued.
Hehehe. I’ve got to remember that one.
I have to say, Lissa, that I’ve never found your posts to be anything other than interesting, informed, and polite. The idea that you’re a center of any sort of controversy on these boards frankly mystifies me. Just keep on doing what you’re doing, and don’t sweat the lynch mob.
Can a person really round up their own lynch mob?
Exactly.
What Miller said.
I want to thank everyone for their advice and say a special thanks for those who had kind words for me. I am going to try hard to curtail my annoying tendencies and ask for your patience and forgiveness when I fail.
Wow, just when I thought we were all ready for a Group Hug.
Well done. I for one hope all goes well for you, and apologize for my own sometimes harsh tone in this thread.
I suspect we tend to get maddest at people for their annoying tendencies when we value their company overall: “S/he’s such a good person; if only s/he wouldn’t drive me batty by doing/saying such-and so!” 
Where with someone we don’t give a rat’s patootie about, it’s more “Meh, who cares what that dingbat has to say.”
:: Begins composing congratulatory limerick; looks up, sees lynch mob assembling (led by Frank); reconsiders ::
ETF, that seems weird to me. It’s the people I don’t like that irritate me like that. I can forgive personal foibles in people I respect. Not so much with people I already don’t like.
I’ve never felt that Lissa was doing anything all that egregious. And if you’re going to get all up in a lather about hubby, then I expect to see some lathering about all the cute ways posters refer to their spouses, usually involving some cutesie manipulation of their username.
As far as authoritarian speaking goes, them’s the breaks. If you don’t like her style and tone, put it in a pit thread and not in the topic du jour, ok? That seems so juvenile.
Have I poked the sleeping dragon?