Hell sometimes it doesn’t even equal “separate”.
Guys can’t like Martha Stewart, pottery classes and Friends?
Girls can’t like nudity, music and hockey?
Eh, who cares about eloquency when it’s a rant, anyway?
Yay for you.
OK, I’m going to attempt a reasoned response here. The main problem is that you have several points accreted into one long stream-of-consciousness paragraph. Separating them would, as people have noted, do wonders for making the post more understandable. I know, I know, this isn’t English class, but it is real life, and in real life, expressing your ideas clearly is the essence of being understood, which is the first step to having your ideas debated for what they are, rather than how they’re expressed.
Second of all, you throw off terms and phrases: “feminist argument”, “feminist stuff”, “REAL established feminists”, etc., without explaining what you mean by them. Defining your terms is important to any discussion, particularly when you use phrases that could have many meanings.
Lastly, and most importantly, you don’t seem to have a central point. The most important point of any piece of persuasive writing is the topic (thesis, whatever you want to call it). At first, your topic seems to be “abortion is bad, but it’s sometimes necessary.” Then it seems to be “I hate seeing images of women being better at things than men,” which seems to mutate into some sort of “women are taking over the world” kind of thing. Then some sort of homosexual double-standard thing. Then complaints about “some people” making money off the fact that women want equality. Finally, a generic comment about bashing men. You’ve got to have a point. If you have multiple points that are nevertheless related, try to have graceful segues between them.
All that said, I think your problem (not your posting problem; your personal problem) is that you are somehow threatened by feminism. Why do assume that they’re talking to you? I try to live my life treating people the same regardless of gender (and other things, but I won’t go off on that tangent), and so I don’t assume that “man-bashers” are talking to me. If you assume they are talking to you, maybe there’s a reason for that.
ok, Jodi… thanks. I mean, it’s one thing if people insult me and don’t say why, and another when they tell me. And at least you pointed out what MIGHT be a subject of discussion if not out of the mouth of a complete idiot who has no place in this world.
BTW, about that abortion thing… If I weren’t such a complete moron, I would have made it clear that I was talking about late abortion.
And I agree it’s a two way thing with TV.
There, there, you’re not a complete idiot. 
You just need to know a couple of things about posting around here. Thing One: The Pit is pretty rough and tumble. People will bite you for no reason here, and the attitude tends to be that if you can’t run with the big dogs you should stay on the MPSIMS porch. Thing B: People around here tend to be pretty smart and pretty articulate, and so a lot of us do place a premium on posts that are easy to read, coherent, and spell-checked. This can sometimes make us seem like a bunch of red-penning school marms, but the truth is that if you want us to take the time to read and consider your posts, you probably should take the time to type them in a readable form. Everyone makes typso, though. Thing Third: One subject per thread is generally a good idea – or else we won’t know what to discuss with you/beat you to death for.
It’s a great place, so stick around. But maybe dip a toe or two into the pool before flinging yourself in? In any case, don’t take it too seriously; this can be a great place to make friends, learn stuff, laugh out loud – it is a Time Sucker par excellance – but at the end of the day it’s just a message board.
This argument keeps sounding stupider and stupider the more I hear it. Do you actually know any queer women? Have you asked them if they have an easy time of it? In mainstream society is is NOT acceptable for women to be in romatnic/sexual relationships with other women. What is somewhat acceptable is lesbianism that exists solely for “the male gaze” – like chicks goin’ at it in porn flicks. If you think this demonstrates a healthy respect for real queer women or that it makes them feel good about themselves and safe in society then you can think again.
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Ally McBeal has been seen lip-locking with a female cow-orker at least a couple of times, on prime-time network TV(does FOX count as a network?). How many men have you seen making out on prime time network TV? Even Will and Grace pussyfoot (no pun intended) around it. You never see Will or Jack or any other gay character even kissing his boyfriend hello.
I’d say, by that rationale, a valid point has been made.
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On the other hand, no homosexual relataionships have really been given equal time, to hetero sexual relationships, on TV. Even the Ally McBeal thing is presented as a goof.
Do tell? :D:D
That’s exactly it, Jack. Lesbianism is acceptable as a joke, or as something to turn men on, but not as a valid form of sexual expression in and of itself. I’m not denying that gay and bisexual men face all sorts of hatred and discrimination, just that in their case mainstream society and the media are at least willing to admit that they exist and that they do the things they do because they are genuinely attracted to other men. The Ally McBeal character is not a lesbian. She is a straight women who sometimes kisses a straight friend – I don’t watch the show, but I believe she does it to get out of dating men she doesn’t like, right? That’s got nothing to do with being an actual lesbian or bisexual woman.
Your point about the TV sitcoms showing women as being smart and in control while the father runs around like an idiot it misguided. The reason this is done is that these shows involve a concept called “comedy”. Comedy is difficult to precisely define, but frequently involves displacement, or things being different the they usually are.
Roman sitcoms frequently featured the Greek slaves being on top and in control, as butlers frequently are portrayed on modern sitcoms (Benson from Soap, the dude from Fresh Prince, Jeeves from P.G. Wodehouse’s stuff, etc.) It should be noted that while people laughed, they also saw that there was some truth in the portrayals, and altered their thinking accordingly, although perhaps not consciously, much as the Archie Bunker character encouraged people to think about bigotry and racism. [Edith in All in the Family was a humorous character and a counter-point to the effective and in-control wife sterotype, As does Married with Children.]
When it is no longer funny, and becomes a standard portrayal in dramas, is when it would be a potential social problem, and the reverse will begin to show up in Sitcoms.
IMHO - While Homer is certainly a collosal idiot, Marge isn’t exactly a genius. I think a woman who intentionally married a moron would have trouble being seen as smart. A guy in modern media could be portrayed as smart and still be paired with a less-than-gifted gal, as long as she had massive boobies and could run in slow-motion. It makes ya think (mostly about boobies, in my case). 