For some reason, I’m thinking very hard on the last thing I said in my last post…
In America, Jews were “given a chance” long before black people were, and black people in America were historically treated much, much worse than Jews in America.
Crime has gone down significantly, including among black people, since the 80s and 90s. At the same time that black rates of crime increased, white rates increased as well.
No it doesn’t. Among African Americans, percentage of African ancestry does not correlate at all to academic test scores, and there’s no data that suggests it correlates at all to criminality either.
No it doesn’t. It was wrong to use violence and discriminatory laws and rules to prevent black people from voting, and to relegate black people to inferior government services, and to prevent black people from competing economically before Civil Rights, and it remains wrong after Civil Rights.
The treatment of Jews in Europe for much of the last thousand years has been significantly different to the treatment of blacks in Europe or America.
Are opinions really improving, or are whites reluctant to express how they really feel?
Also, what is it that whites with positive feelings know about blacks that whites with negative feelings do not know? ![]()
Black academic performance is not improving. The decline in the black crime rate can be attributed to the tripling of the prison population since 1980.
Since the civil rights legislation was signed the black illegitimacy rate has risen to a jaw dropping 72.3 percent. :eek:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329432/latest-statistics-illegitimate-births-roger-clegg
Opinions really are improving. Do you have any data that suggests otherwise, or are you just pulling shit out of your ass?
They probably know lots of things about history, science, and morality that racists don’t know. Most racists are ignorant, as well as being shitheads in general.
It is by some measures.
No it can’t. The two statistics do not correlate well at all.
If you want to look for numbers to justify your hatred, that’s your business.
Large numbers of Jews were killed in the pogroms. Very few blacks were killed.
Oh, cracker, please!
I totally understand your desperate desire for the answer to be the latter so you can continue to deny your racism, but it’s not.
According to thge U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics. (2013). Digest of Education Statistics, 2012 (NCES 2014-015) the race gap in SAT scores has increased since the school year of 1986 - 87.
There is a similar gap in ACT scores.
The failure of No Child Left Behind provides fresh and very public evidence of assertions made by Charles Murray and others.
You’d think that if racists thought their opinions were really that justified, to the point of expressing them that openly in a public forum, they’d be more proud of the “racist” moniker.
1986? Some twenty years after the major civil rights legislation? Obviously this means that Reagan’s policies had major ill effects on African Americans. Thank you for pointing that out. ![]()
If a racist is one who respects credible data about race differences, that is what I am. For too long the fear of being called a “racist” has interfered with the dialogue on race liberals call for while hypocritically suppressing.
Now that you have called me a “racist” try to disprove my arguments using facts and reason.
According to the NAEP, the achievement gap has decreased significantly since the 1970s.
No it doesn’t. NCLB was a shitty bill. It’s not surprising when shitty bills don’t succeed.
Your arguments have been disproved consistently in this thread after pretty much every post you’ve made. Your arguments are shit, and further, it’s all old shit. All old shit that we’ve seen many times, again and again, on this board. You’re offering nothing new here – just the same tired, racist bullshit that’s been refuted again and again.
Yeah, sure, a “dialogue” that starts with the assumption that African Americans are inherently inferior. That’s not much of a start to a “dialogue” to me.
I’m sorry. You must be a “scientific racialist”, and your citing of Charles Murray’s massive bell-shaped pile of bullshit proves it. Thanks for playing. We’ve smashed scientific racialism countless times on this message board. Ask Chief Pedant.
Please don’t! CP has shown no ability to see the weaknesses in his own arguments.
The gap still yawns.
This is what The New York Times has to say about No Child Left Behind.
By SAM DILLON
Published: November 20, 2006
Despite concerted efforts by educators, the test-score gaps are so large that, on average, African-American and Hispanic students in high school can read and do arithmetic at only the average level of whites in junior high school.
“The gaps between African-Americans and whites are showing very few signs of closing,” Michael T. Nettles, a senior vice president at the Educational Testing Service, said in a paper he presented recently at Columbia University. One ethnic minority, Asians, generally fares as well as or better than whites.
In Atlanta there was a massive cheating scandal. Teachers erased the wrong answers of black students, and wrote in the right answers.
Yes, it still exists. So what? By some measures it has shrunk. Hopefully it will continue to shrink the future.
We’re in the absolute dawn of actual equal opportunity, if we’ve even reached equal opportunity – it shouldn’t be surprising in the least that a gap exists.
Who cares? It was a shitty bill. Why would anyone be surprised if a shitty bills fails?
No, Ferguson isn’t remotely ghetto. It’s a very nice town with some great restaurants and an excellent farmer’s market. The Ferguson/Florissant/Berkeley/Dellwood area tends to lower middle class and has a higher poverty rate than a lot of the rest of the county, but really doesn’t have a particularly violent reputation (the last week not withstanding).
"Slim? Yeah, hi, it’s me. Listen, shit is weird, I think maybe I’m having a flashback.
Yeah, I know, I know, no sucha thing, but…look, I’m at that message board, you know?..yeah, smartest and hippest, that’s the one…and I’m hallucinating a scientific racist! *Fuck! *
Can you read a hallucination, ever happen to…yeah, sure, good idea, have a look. Yeah, go to message boards, and The Pit and its the one about Ferguson…yeah, I know, man, bummer…go to the last page, and…you do?
You see it* too*? Motherfucker! We’re both having the same bad trip!
Did we ever have any of the brown acid?.."