trailer looks great but they always do. disney sequels are always good, right?
I loved 1, and I liked 2 and 3 enough because even they the plot was a huge mess, they had pirates. (similar with JP2 and 3, they have dinosaurs, so I can watch it just for that). But anyway hopefully they learned their lesson from PotC 2 and 3 and can make this one just cool action scenes without a confusing plot. I had my doubts about Pirates 4 but I just watch the trailer and hear the music (I love the music in the series) and hear yet another “Captain Jack Sparrow” joke and I can’t help but be excited for this. All I ask from this movie is that I be entertained for 2 hours in the theater.
People complain about Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley not being in it but I don’t care. Johnny Depp is way cooler anyway, and Barbarossa (don’t know his actor) is back too so he and Jack Sparrow always interact well. Jack Sparrow is the coolest guy in the series anyway, we don’t need Will or Elizabeth. Why do movie makers always try to put in a girl and dumb romance plot and interrupt the action?
I better start saving my money so I can afford a $9 movie ticket to see it this summer (yes I am so excited I can’t even wait for it to get to the $3 theater 3 months late)
Ian McShane as Blackbeard is a brilliant piece of casting. If it’s more in line with the first POTC, this movie could be very good. Pirate zombies, hell yes!
I might go see it, but Will and Elizabeth are more interesting to me than Jack, so I’m left wondering what’s the point is of making another movie without them.
I happened to enjoy #2 and #3 (other than wishing they were separate plots rather than just one plot split up) though I know many others did not. But #4 is based on a critically acclaimed novel (the original novel has nothing to do with the movies other than also being about pirates), so I hold out hope that it will be enjoyable even for those who got lost after #1. However #5 and #6 are up in the air.
I’m one of the seemingly rare people who liked the craziness of 2 and the plot of 3 (at least, if the Internet is to be believed ;)) and I’m pretty psyched for 4. I think losing Elizabeth and Jack is a good thing, as we can focus more on swashbuckling and double-crossing.
I really like #2 and #3, I don’t know why people hate them so much. Yes it’s convoluted the first time through, but after another watch it makes more sense and you can just enjoy the ride.
However, I am not enthused by the trailer for #4. There’s no spark in it for me, it looks uninspired. But that may be because it’s a teaser, just jamming a bunch of scenes together quickly. A proper trailer aligning somewhat with the plot might make me more enthusiastic.
I should point out that #4 is based on ‘The Stress Of Her Regard’ by Tim Powers, a very well regarded novel and author. If they did it any justice at all, it should be most excellent.
I think you mean On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers, and they only borrowed some concepts (Fountain of Youth and Blackbeard). This is the same book that The Secret of Monkey Island was partially inspird by, so it all comes full circle.
I haven’t seen them in years, and my mind mostly shut down after the first half hour, but…
The plot machinations lost all meaning. Death, loyalty, lust, revenge, were combined in various ways but were impossible to take seriously.
The showpiece fight on the waterwheel was typical of the sickness. It was literally unbelievable (even within the context of a silly movie), rolled on far too long, the outcome of the fight was meaningless, the shifting of combatants --intended to be cute-- wasn’t.
The first movie reminded me of the cover of my copy of the book (now a collector’s item!). I love Tim Powers & am glad he’s getting some money–& perhaps some new fans.
WHile I liked the rpesence of Bloom and Knightly in the first, I felt they were badly used int he sequels. Their story should have been left alone; they had what they wanted out of life. They were strong, heroic characters but that plot was done. They had to actually shrink the characters in the sequels so they could grow them again - hence the huge character derailment. And with them being the ambiguous semi-heroes, they had to push Sparrow into the complete loon angle to make it work.*
Well, it didn’t, of course. The result wasn’t outright bad in 2, but it didn’t live up tot he first, adn 3 was just a huge crapfest because they couldn’t resolve that complex a plot very well. Thus, you got so many interesting characters just shoved off rudely.
This is where I think the series should have gone right off: a whole new story which gives them some room to grow.
*If you watch the first closely, yes, Sparrow is a heroic and comic figure, and he’s more than a little nuts, but everything he does is very purposeful, cunning, and even rational. The same can’t be said later on.
As I understand it, they realized that they were cutting pretty close to the plot of his book and decided to cut him a check instead of tiptoeing around it. (From a Locus interview with Powers a while back). I’m just glad he’s getting some scratch out of this.
