I’m really not giving away anything here, in the movie “Center of the World” this computer millionaire geek pays a stripper $10,000 to spend the weekend in Vegas with him. The deal is she’s his from 10-2 for three nights, but no kissing on the lips and no intercourse.
I already posted this, but I got no responses in part I think because my title sucked.
ANYWAY . . . .in this one scene she asks the guy if he had any fantasy . . he whipsers something in her ear . . .and she tells him “Oh, the Chinese call that fire and ice!” and he sez “They have a NAME for that???”
Cut to next scene . . dude is lying on his stomach, while chick melts ice on his back, then slides the ice towards his butt crack . . . she drinks something, I don’t know what, but it’s out of a small bottle, then her head moves towards said area. Dude stays on stomach, but after a few seconds, can’t take anymore and tells her to stop.
NOW my first instinct is she was fellating the guy with an icecube . . . BUT she drank out of a bottle, and well, he was on his stomach, so that can be hard to do.
The other possibility of course. . . if she was doing something sick to his most taboo of all areas . . .or was it something else???
I still have no idea. First of all, what the heck is an “Altoid blowjob?” Secondly, what does “emasculated” mean? I mean, I know the definition, but if you ask me, it makes no sense here. So, I’d say the question was asked, but sidestepped.
CheapBastid, the second link didn’t work, and the first was less than explicit.
flyboy88, a McGuffin is a gimmick for a movie that is essential to the plotline, but only that there is a gimmick, not what the gimmick is. For instance, the contents of the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. You never see what is in the briefcase, it is just a glowing light. But the return of the briefcase to the owner drives the plot.
A similar version would be an old LA LAW episode, where a couple of lawyers talk about the “Venus Butterfly”. Then they go off, and cut back after they’ve had sex and enjoyed that move. They never describe the move, just the name and imply it was enjoyable.
An “Altoid blowjob” would be sucking on an Altoid while giving a blowjob. Altoids are a special brand of mint that are particularly strong. They kinda burn. So the “fire and ice” trick would be hot altoid on sensitive genitals in combo with an ice cube - the alternating stimulations in combination. I have heard a similar description of an ice cube and Icy-Hot or menthol. No, it’s not a blowjob, just the combined application on the genitals.
As for the description in the article, it mentions “emasculation”. This sounds like a euphamism in this case for anal penetration. So it sounds like the implied act is hot and cold on the anus. I’m not sure how that is supposed to involve a drink of some sort - would alcohol, say Vodka or Everclear - provide a burning sensation?
So Astroboy14, still up for it? Giving or receiving? Wait, nevermind, I’m not that interested (and definitely not volunteering).
Um, In the interest of completeness, according to Dan Savage, the favored term for this seems to be pegging. Usage: “Oh, Fire and Ice, that would be pegging with an ice cube.”
A) In one of the Guy magazines (I believe it was either Maxim or Details), they make reference to Thai girls at bj bars giving “fire and ice” blowjobs by alternating ice cubes and hot tea in their mouths. shrug
B) “Pegging” - very specific term referring to anal penetration using a strap-on. God, the term’s only a week and a half old, people.
Aha! That explains it. Thanks for the explanation, Irishman. I know what Altoids are, but I’ve never had one, as I hate peppermint, and that’s the only kind people ever have. So the thought of someone giving a blowjob while sucking on a hard (excuse the pun) candy made no sense to me. And the icy/hot thing on my member? I can hardly think of a more uncomfortable procedure.
And the emasculation thing… never heard of it. But then, these little factoids are why I love the SDMB!
Ah, “pegging”. Seriously, this is a word that we have needed for a long time. I think we should all give a silent moment of thanks to Dan Savage for finally addressing this issue.
Please, let’s have more usage of the term “pegging”!
Well, I’ll be pegged!! A McGuffin is a movie-industry cheating device where there is a plot device that is never explained (such as the glowing interior of the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. What is it? Who cares! It’s tangental to the story-line, so not important…).
Still gotta try to talk Astrogirl into trying the fire and ice thingy…
Sorry, I was generalizing. I think it could be extended to include any artificial anal penetration, ice included (although just the thought of it makes me feel all weird). I do like the term though. I think that out of “bob”, “peg”, or “punt” pegging was the best choice.
BTW: I really can’t believe I’m participating in this topic.
A McGuffin doesn’t always have to be invisible. It’s a term Alfred Hitchcock coined to describe the object or goal that drives a plot. I believe his definition was “The thing the spies are after.” For example, the McGuffin in The Maltese Falcon is the falcon, and you can see that. The McGuffin in Memento is his wife’s murderer, and that is also explained. Or maybe not. Well, anyways, Astroboy, mysterious origins are not a requirement for McGuffins.
Oh, I’m sorry! This tread was about deviant sexual practices, wasn’t it?
I’ve heard in the past that the briefcase in Pulp Fiction contained Marcellus Wallace’s soul, which he had undoubtedly lost or sold to the devil on his way to becoming a crime lord. That would explain the combination to its locks being 666 and also why Jules refused to give it to the robber saying, “I can’t give it to you because it isn’t mine.”
I’ve read that Mr. Tarantino has went public and diffused this all as urban legend stating it was just a McGuff but that still doesn’t explain the bandaid. It does seem like I’ve heard somewhere before about the belief of certain individuals that a person’s soul either resides in one’s head or mind or maybe that when it is taken it is extracted through the back of one’s neck/head.
Personally I favor this explanation. For me not only does it fit in with so many other elements of the movie, it gives Jules yet another reason to believe in God and to change his way of life.
Sorry I know this is a little off topic, just my two cents. As you were…
I find it interesting that the old idea of a McGuffin required the item not to be explained. Now we tend to think it’s okay if it’s explained: as long as it’s completely replaceable. The point is that the exact identity of the substance doesn’t affect the plot, not that we don’t necessarily know what the identity is.
