Fire the Federal Governement!!!

America needs change and I think we should just do away with the Federal Government period. They can’t be trusted any longer, its bad enough we have to watch our counties, and our states. I know this would brought up by our founding fathers, and its very appreciated. But its just not working anymore, we need like Obama says CHANGE. So I think all the states should just go their separate ways. What happens when you give someone to much power and authority/ It goes straight to their head and into Americans wallets.

If that OP were more coherent, it might sound like a traitorous rant. :rolleyes:

Sooo…who gets the nuclear weapons?

What happens to NATO?

Social Security?

NASA?

The Post Office?

The Interstate Highway System?

Etc.

Put another way, this idea stinks.

What, go back to the Articles of Confederation? Good God, that was a disaster back in the 18th century. In today’s ever more interconnected world, that would just Balkanize the United States, destroy the free-trade interstate economy, and eliminate any ability for any state to act coherently outside of its own borders. Who gets which Naval vessels? Who gets the nukes and the Air Force?

So…each of the 50 states should become a completely sovereign nation?

One of the places where government power and authority is at its most intrusive: International borders. Every time you cross an international border, government bureaucrats–many of them armed–get to ask you questions about where you’re coming from and where you’re going and why; and search you and your stuff; and take the opportunity to levy all sorts of taxes (tariffs and customs) on any goods you have.

I don’t think setting up 50 new sets of border guards would increase the freedom of average Americans.

This is not about Elections.

Moving to … Great Debates, I guess.

I think the decision in the famous Lee vs Grant (1865) case at Appomattox Courthouse ruled that what you are proposing is not lawful.

Oooh, we could sell them on the open market and take care of that debt-thingy. There must be a good market for them.

:confused: Probably the same thing if Belgium splits up.

OP translation: I’m confused and scared.

Translation 2:

“I don’t know what this Federal government thingie does, but someone on the TV told me that it’s bad and not working and we don’t need it.”

Translation 3: I’m drunk and in college, and this just slithered out of my head, man.

Don’t cut it in 50, cut it in 2. Let the old Confederacy go ahead and resecede. While those in Jesusland would be free to outlaw abortion, gay marriage, bring back Jim Crow, deny evolution and global warming, the rest of us would be free of supporting the parasitic red states and having a backward minority keep us from moving forward.

Here, here! I like the sound of that.

I’ve often wondered, if Lincoln let the South seceed, how would the two nations have evolved and which one would be doing better today?

But perhaps that’s another thread.

At least one of them would know how to spell “secede.” (At least you didn’t say “succeed.” :stuck_out_tongue: )

Only if we can realize Cain’s idea and have an electric fence and moat with alligators between them.

Yeah, that’s a toughie isn’t it?

So you would just abandon those of us that live in the old south to a theocracy? thanks man. We can have democracy in Libya bot not in northern Virginia?

BTW its not religion per se that drives them to this, it is a particular brand of religion. You don’t see this sort of shit coming from large Catholic communities or large Jewish communities or large Presbyterian or Lutheran communities. It is coming from a community of religious fanatics that have conflated religious beliefs with things like tax policy, anti-environmentalism and a wierd form of libertarianism.

But for the abortion/gay rights debate, most religious folks are four square with liberals and frankly a lot of us are pretty much on board with gay rights too and have a moderated view on abortion.

If you guys could just speak up, you silent majority you, and maybe outshout your crazy co-religionists, it would do the country a world of good.

Until then, you are essentially like the guys who KNOW the roadside bomb is there, and KNOW The convoy is coming down the road, but don’t want to get involved.

Yard sale.

Fire the nuclear weapons!!!