Probably means a “Dewey Defeats Truman” photo-op.
Yes, the SDMB would be ever so much better if those annoying conservatives would just go away and stop ‘cluttering up’ the board with their opinions. An echo chamber works much better when all the doors are closed.
Jesus dude. Why don’t you just hang up on them instead of turning into a crazy person?
Not that bucket. The group of states Romney must win so there’s no need to poll there.
Except, there is still a need to poll there. If Romney must win them, and if it should happen to turn out that he isn’t, well, that would be a quite significant piece of information, wouldn’t it?
Oh, I don’t know. We’d be arguing about things like solutions to global warming vs. whether or no global warming exists. Or maybe about the best way to make sure Americans get healthcare vs whether or not Americans should have reasonable healthcare. Or maybe we’d argue about the best way to prevent future terrorist attacks instead of whether to invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks (Big Dawg!). Maybe a fruitful discussion about fixing the economy might pop up.
Your “echo chamber” doesn’t sound so awful. There’s a reason why it’s hard to take American conservatives seriously nowadays; their credibility is at an all time low.
I was addressing somebody else who said that might be what they stopped polling there (because Romney must win those or he’ll lose).
It’s sort of telling that the quote said “shilling”, and you changed that to “opinions”.
I guess in your books, they are one and the same thing.
Well, you say “potato” and I say “Irish apple”. Same difference.
Maybe you could help me out then: Look at adaher’s posts, and tell me how they are ‘shilling’ for the right as opposed to being just right-wing opinions. If you can give me a reasonable definition that fits adaher’s posts and doesn’t fit the posts of the Democratic supporters here, I’ll retract my statement.
Ah! And this contest will be subject to decision based on your absolute impartiality? How very reassuring.
Look, he’s right. Sticking up for your political beliefs is presumably fine on a board mostly dedicated to debate and argument. Characterizing adaher’s posts as “shilling” is just a completely false statement. To “shill” is to sell a product or service by pretending to be personally satisfied by it. Presenting your own honest opinion about current events - even if you do it stridently - is not “shilling.”
You say hunger? I say positive motivator.
You say tax hike? I say broadening the base.
You say hunger? I say class warfare.
You say tax hike? I say class warfare.
Context is important people!
Adahar’s posts are not based on reality, sound reasoning or fact.
So we are left with a few choices, you can either accuse him of “shilling”, living under a bridge or being a nut-case. (not that the three are mutually exclusive)
Shilling is taking the high road.
But if adaher left, we’d be deprived of deep insights like “I’m not necessarily saying the unemployment figures are fixed. I’m just saying the media would cover up for Obama it if they were.”
Odd, that ‘echo chamber’ idea is not sounding so terrible…
Sure. In his only post to this thread, adaher writes:
Wow, that’s a pretty flagrant display of shilling for conservativism! I can’t imagine anything more contrary to “reality, sound reasoning or fact” than the proposition that Suffolk is masking budget cuts with a publicity grab. This thread is a really great example of adaher’s infelicity, and I’m a bit sad someone brought it up here before I got a chance to.
Ha ha. I did not use the term “shilling”, I merely pointed out that you quietly changed it to “opinion”.
I’ve been here long enough to know that that would be a pointless exercise. You’d have the “strict dictionary definition” game (thanks Rickjay), followed by the “he didn’t do anything bad in this particular thread” game (tip o the hat to **Paranoid Randroid
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Soon to be followed by the “He did nothing illegal, therefore it is perfectly acceptable” Brickerism, and finally the ultimate “It was not his fault, he was driven to it by the dirty hippies and things were better in the 60’s” nail in the coffin.
You’re welcome.
That’s a game? “adaher did nothing objectionable in this particular thread” seems less like a game than a good reason not to whine about him here without looking a bit silly. You can think, man, this place’d be great if all those conservatives would just go away — I mean, look at adaher — well, not here, and not in that thread, either — I mean where he mentioned some sympathy for BLS conspiracy theorists. Yeah, that post. Isn’t that guy always shilling?!
But it won’t be terribly effective.
Wow, you can tell what I think now too? Based on what I did not write or what?
Here’s what I actually think - opposing opinions are terrific. They are the life-blood of a board like this. They are welcomed, especially if backed up by facts and cites. What is not particularly useful though, is anyone who simply repeats the latest headline from FOX or the latest talking point being spewed by a politician.