If one needs to be compelled by law to provide reasonable aid to someone in grave danger society has deeper flaws than the lack of such a law.
Unfortunately I had to watch it. Many times. I had to pixilate portions of the image and remove the audio to make it broadcast “safe”.
Apparently it is a first degree misdemeanor in Florida to fail to report a death. Those witnesses may yet be charged with a crime, albeit the crime in question may be not reporting the death for several days rather than any crime of not helping in the first place.
Excellent post and you beat me to it. Every generation laments as they get older that the country is going to the dogs. It isn’t, it’s simply that well-known phenomenon of “when I was young things were so much better!” It’'s rarely true.
Neither did I but that still doesn’t mean these teens will grow up to be gangbangers or serial killers. They’re fucking teens and teens do stupid and mean things. It’s bullshit to suggest they’re somehow the embodiment of evil.
Stupid? Mean? That’s how you characterize taunting, failing to assist, filming, not calling for 911 and standing nearby and laughing as another human being dies before their eyes?
Stupid is texting and driving. Mean is bullying someone for their lunch money. Sorry, I can’t see or excuse this as mere youthful antics/indiscretion.
Anyone know the actual ages of these morally bankrupt individuals?
Sonorous, but how does that work exactly ?
a/ Country A ( Germany ) is so depraved, people are forced to help.
b/ Country B ( Florida ) is so virtuous, people need no laws to make them help, just the instinctive goodness of the human heart, and they don’t help.
Inspiring an uncomfortable thought experiment…
It’s not that. The point is society should be instilling values in people to the point that one shouldn’t fear the consequences of breaking a law to do the right thing. I’ve helped people in danger because I was raised right. These teens obviously weren’t.
And folks excusing this as just another example of stupid teen behavior are dumb.
The article in the first post says 14 to 16 years old.
New York Daily News reports that the police plan to file misdemeanour charges under a law that mandates anyone who “becomes aware of the death of any person” tell officials. The charges have been sent to the state attorney’s office, which will see if they’ll hold up. I guess they will but is it really worth it? The maximun penalty is probably only a small fine.
The paper is misleading in the following.
Under Florida law? I don’t believe even the states which have Good Samaritan laws legally require people to jump in and save someone, especially if it’s minors who are required to do the jumping. Make a phone call, yes. Risk your life? There’s no statute on Earth which would require that of someone.
Vinyl Turnip wrote: “Inspiring an uncomfortable thought experiment…”
Just to be sure we understood that. Were you inquiring as to who might take no action if the drowning victim were Ms. Coulter?
Are you thinking lawsuits from the deceased guys family against the families of the teenagers? I’m not a “sue em all” type, but in this case I hope those kids and their parents get their asses sued off.
Yeah kids do dumb things, geezus we all still do dumb things. But making fun of someone dying? That is a new low in humanity.
Same here.
I sometimes joke that I can watch any level of human suffering but show me an animal with a pebble in his paw and I won’t be able to sleep that night.
But I had to stop this video at about 20 seconds in when one of the shitstains shouted, “we not fittin’ to help yo ass!”.
Very disturbing.
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I believe you. I just don’t want it to be true.
I really don’t think these teens going to lose sleep over what they did. At least one of them showed remorse, I guess, but they sound like a bunch of sociopaths. Sometimes there is no justice.
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Leave it to Ann “Woe is Me, a Persecuted White Woman” Cunter to turn a tragedy into a racial issue:
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Well, those comments are something. At least one person blamed the scourge of liberalism. A bunch of sociopathic teens mocked the death of a disabled black man because liberals. I’m still trying to work out how that could be.
Agreed.
However, these kids are sociopaths. I’m not sure it’s an indication of a flawed society so much as the flawed human genome or damage to the prefrontal lobe.
If someone needs to be compelled by law not to murder, that is a bad thing, too. But it’s still good to have a law against murdering. There will always be people who lack the morality to do right, but can be coerced by legal penalties. That is why the law, in broad strokes, is a good thing.
I think it is possible that there was a bit of mob mentality or peer pressure here, in that, since some of them weren’t reacting, they all acted shitty. It mattered more to them to fit in than to even sound sympathetic. So I wouldn’t necessarily assume they are all sociopaths.
That doesn’t mean I don’t want them punished, so they realize such peer pressure is not an excuse. I do think there is a problem in this country of devaluing morality for other concerns. Doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of good people out there, but I do see a worrying trend.
I’m also kind of reminded of Kitty Genovese and the fraternity pledge who died recently when his “friends” did nothing to help him.