You have recent cites from similar incidents in any other G-20* countries perhaps?
I did a Google search for “police anal search russia”, and curiously enough, the first hit was this one, courtesy of Russia Today. Subsequent pages of that search are devoted largely to discussion of the New Mexico incident. The first several pages of “police anal search china” also return no other incidents besides this one (or the one mentioned by RT).
*Anything goes in Saudi Arabaia - make it a G-19 for our purposes.
#1. Unlike my two cites, both of which were in the news in the past 100 days, your cite is from 2008.
#2. From your cite: "“In 30 years, this is the first time I have heard of or seen such a thing,” said Jean-Paul Levy, one of the newspaper’s attorneys… In a statement, the group [Reporters Without Borders] said: “We are outraged by the unacceptable methods used against Vittorio de Filippis and their humiliating nature. Such a thing has never before been heard of in France. To treat a journalist like a criminal and resort to practices such as body searches is not only shocking but unworthy of French justice.” (emphasis added)
While looking for stats on police brutality, I also came across this article, which interstingly notes:
So, got anything else? Or is it just “USA! USA! USA!”? :dubious:
I am not yelling anything close to “USA! USA!”, you idiot. I just find the claim that police brutality and misconduct only happens in America laughable. It’s not like the rest of the word is all sunshine and rainbows. I also have the suspicion that any cite I throw out will be disqualified by you using moving goalpost criteria.
But fuck it, this started about rape and police misconduct. You’re Irish. Why don’t you defend your country’s piece of shit police reaction (or rather cover up) over the last few decades of Catholic child rape? The Garda are the worst in the entire damn world when it comes to looking the other way in a child sex abuse case.
I never made that claim. Sattua was the one who implied that US police forces were no better or worse than the rest of the world in regards to brutality (“Because police aren’t brutal and corrupt anywhere else in the world. :rolleyes:”). I drew exception to that, as I think that, relative to other wealthy, industrialized nations, US police forces are in fact more likely to engage in acts of brutality.
And I have the suspicion that your nationalistic anger has you grasping at straws.
Nope. Born and raised in USA, spent my first 35 years there. I’ve lived here for nearly 8 years now.
It’s not just An Garda Síochána that’s to blame for that ongoing scandal; it reached into Irish society as a whole: bureaucracy, teachers, church leaders, politicians, etc. I’m not defending that at all (and I’m not Catholic). But I don’t think you really want to play “Well, Your Country Did This!” with me vis-a-vis Ireland. You will lose that game.
Cool. And stories like the OP make me glad I don’t live in America!
And I would argue that cops are much less corrupt (and brutal) in many other countries, particularly ones which the USA sees as its peers.
The fact that this cop was even allowed to be on the job to perpetrate the offense of which the OP accuses him shows that “North American” (come on, just say “American” - I doubt you’re also referencing Canadian cops) law enforcement has some serious problems.
Regarding the *perception *of corruption of police, government or anyone else in the United States:
Unlike many other countries the United States has a free press with protections guaranteed under the First Amendment. Although these rights often result in stories being broadcast and published that annoy or shock the public, it also insures that the people in positions of power may have their illegal and corrupt actions brought to light.
I am aware the press of many other nations are both powerful and aggressive as well, but if you are trying to say “I hear about more corruption there, thus there is more corruption” I would suggest you examine the relative power of the press in other places and their ability to deliver the same information before drawing that conclusion.
For example I recently read about the terrible healthcare offered in Venezuela. I would not be surprised that examining the media reports from Venezuela and the US side by side you might conclude that healthcare is far worse in the US, assuming my estimate (admittedly a pure guess) of what the press is allowed to report there vrs what the press may report here.
Or in short, beware equating reports of crime with acts of crime, for that depends on the ability to report more than the actual amount of crime.
So, by this you mean that Venezuela and the USA are peers - virtually of the same standard.
Comparing the USA to a bum-fuck-backwards-pos country - go ahead, if this is the standard that the USA wants to compare itself to, next thing is Zambia, China, North Korea, etc….
Let’s see how the USA compares to other developed countries like Germany, UK, Sweden, France, Switzerland, etc…
Sure there are fuckups by Europeen police aswell … 17 examples from the last 20 years in Europe vs 3785 in the USA from just last year… makes sense - Europe is fucked… better not do what they do – Europe is evil and they are all communists and fags – USA! USA! USA!
This act about the USA being one big police state just gets old. I’ve lived in the US 26 years and have never had any life changing experiences with the police. Neither has anyone I know, that I am aware of. But so many people outside the US are so quick to call it a police state, etc etc. Corruption is everywhere. If you are foolish enough to think the grand majority of it is isolated in one country enjoy your fucking ignorance.
Good point. Of course, your immediate personal experience is wholly representative of the behaviors, attitudes, and experiences of 320 million fellow citizens. I also erred when I said that the USA was one big police state, containing the majority of the world’s corruption (well, I’m not actually sure I put forth either of those claims, but if you say so.) My bad. Please accept my most sincere apologies.
