A good bacon cheeseburger is very tempting. I just picked out a food that I had served to a group of friends, not knowing that one of them was an observant Jew. When I asked him about it, he said that he was Jewish, and didn’t eat meat and dairy at the same time, and didn’t eat pork at any time. So I made him a vegetarian omelet, and he was happy. And from then on, I made his burger first, so it wasn’t contaminated with either cheese or bacon. And he was happy. I also altered my usual offerings, so that there were more of the items that he could eat.
Fortunately, he wasn’t hung up about having separate meat and dairy plates and such.
I’m a vegetarian and I feel guilty asking for vegetarian burgers and crap in fast food places, since they have to change the grease it’s cooked in. I don’t want to cost them any extra money (there’s at least an opportunity cost to changing oil). I don’t even care if something’s cooked with meat and I just take the pepperoni slices (say) off, I just don’t want to add to the demand for meat.
The grease it’s cooked in? Any place I’ve cooked that had a veggie burger option, I just wiped any residual meat grease off a spot on the grill and plopped the veggie patty down there. Or it got cooked on the flame broiler. It’s not like even the regular burgers were fried in lard. The only meat-based grease present would be the grease that melts off the burger patties themselves while they cook, nothing extra.
You are the same sort of vegetarian that I am. I don’t think you need to worry about anyone changing out the oil or cleaning the grill for you at fast food places, though. I doubt that they do it at high end places, either. Most of those places just pull the Morning Star patty out of the box and toss it in the microwave.
Last Sunday, I went back to my favorite mom and pop place and told my favorite waitress that I wanted my food cooked without pepper. Because of what happened the week before, everyone got their food before me because the waitress looked at my food and went back to the kitchen and bitched the cooks out in English and Spanish. I saw her running out with my plate for the second time, and suddenly she turned around and went back to the kitchen. More shouting happened. She stayed in the kitchen until my food was ready. Everyone was done eating and wanting to leave before I finally got my food.
I’m not going to do this again. I can eat pepper, I like pepper. It was just an experiment. Now I have a LOT more sympathy for people who have food sensitivities.
This society’s regrettable lack of general health and diet knowledge, seen in you and most other members of the society, is not my fault.
I can assure you, it’s a rare person who does better on a patented medication than a smarter diet, in the long run. It’s not easy, though. I’m still learning, 14 years in.
I’m not faulting you for any failings of society. I am, however, faulting you for being a presumptuous jackass. You say that you’ve seen in me a lack of knowledge about health and diet. What do you know about my health and diet? I don’t mean that question rhetorically, either. Paint me a picture. What am I actually eating that I shouldn’t be. What am I, a person you know from all of four sentences on the internet, doing that’s negatively impacting my health?
And you can assure me that a “smarter” diet is better in the long run based on what? In addition to alleviating my symptoms, actual studies have shown that my medication decreases my risk of cancer (which is greatly elevated from my condition). What’ve you got backing you up? Some guy who’s sold a bunch of books? Or just your own feelings about how avoiding grains or whatever bullshit you’ve latched onto makes you feel?
You’re right, I don’t know. I assumed you were talking about a digestive issue. I’ve not seen a digestive issue that wasn’t better addressed with diet than than medication. What condition were you referring to?
And it doesn’t matter if I’m presumptuous. Calling me that doesn’t fix your problem.
Although you are not worth the time to reply to, apparently, I did want to mention that I’m not espousing a particular diet. Different things work for different people. Most people do better without grains, heavily fried/grilled foods, and large amounts of dairy. Most people also do better with a varied diet that isn’t extreme in terms of protein/fat/carb ratios. However, I have seen a number of people do very well on low-fat diets, and several people only get relief from symptoms on a zero-carb diet, for instance.
Which ones? Seriously, you’d have to go disease by disease. I can back up my claims with research, anecdotal data, human anthropological data, and common sense.
But you don’t want those things. You want me to cite, and cite, and cite, and then you’ll just demand more and more cites, until I give up. I play the game too, don’t worry. But I’m not playing it with you, shitbrick.
Yeah, generally people want peer reviewed research. That’s how it works on this cite. Though if you could send me positive chakras through the tubes, that’d work too.
No, asshat, I want you to demonstrate you are talking out of your mouth and not your other end. You’re coming across as a promoter of woo-woo supplements and crazy diets because you’re being coy and vague. You wound exactly like the people who promote restrictive diets based on blood types or astrological signs. If you don’t want to provide a cite fine - I’ll just dump your opinion in the discard bin. If you want to be taken seriously back up what you say.
Incorrect. I do not shit bricks as my intestinal health is excellent and I am not constipated
In my younger days I worked in hole in the wall Chinese restaurant where we had a number of cooks, none of them legal and only a couple of them fluent in English. Whenever someone with a deadly MSG allergy popped up we’d add a note for the cooks. The English speakers would actually refrain from using MSG and add a little salt. The rest of them didn’t read it and even if they could I doubt they gave the slightest of shits and would crank out the same food they always did. No difference that I could see. Also haven’t seen anyone complain about their MSG allergy since before 2000 though who knows, there might be some holdouts.
Since them I’ve done work in the medical field and there are two things I’ve noticed:
There is a very high correlation with length of allergy list and level of crazy. Allergic to penicillin? Sure. Allergic to penicillin, iodine, and sulfa? Okay, sure. Penicillin, all “mycin” drugs, beef, shellfish, citrus fruits and scents, gluten, epinephrine, codeine, and morphine? Pity the nurses. Can’t fit them all on the allergy band? And it includes stuff like like salt water, acetic acid, and cotton? I think maybe you need a specialist. I hear there are some guys at the county hospital that are real experts in whatever you think you have…
The other interesting thing is that if you deal with a blue-collar/immigrant population, the overall rate of allergies, and penicillin allergies in particular, is a tiny. The ratio of hispanic construction worker allergies and middle aged white woman allergies is something like 1:100.
And to the crank who has the solution for IBD: sell that shit. People are spending millions on Asacol, I’m sure they’d pay a lot less for your miracle cure, especially if it means they can avoid a fucking laparotomy. That’s what I plan to do with my cure for prostate cancer that involves diet modification and hyper doses of vitamin C. I’d be a millionaire already, if only big pharma wasn’t oppressing me by making me too lazy and stupid to develop and market my cure with their brain wave emitters.
I have a sister with a genuine, medically documented problem with MSG. On the other hand, she just doesn’t go to Chinese restaurants, period. The sane ones just don’t put themselves at that sort of risk.
Likewise, my niece who has a potentially fatal fish allergy simply never goes to seafood restaurants.
>sigh< Yes, I realize there’s a correlation between length of allergy list and amount of crazy, which is real hell for those of us with actual multiple allergies. I try very, very hard to present as sane otherwise but honestly, I get tired of folks “challenging” me in secret to prove it’s all in my head then having to call an ambulance or go on course of steroids or some other happy horseshit.
Then there are the ones who, upon seeing my list of food allergies, are dumbfounded I don’t have drug allergies. Nope, not a one. I have no idea why this is so, though I’m happy it is because hassle enough worrying about my food.
Unfortunately, multiple allergies DO occur, even in adults. I agree with the notion that there should be some sort of actual medical documentation of this. Equally unfortunately, my recent effects to see an allergist have been stymied. I would LOVE to be told I can take some things off my forbidden list but would prefer medical guidance before monkeying around with this sort of thing. My last visit to an allergist was over 35 years ago, I’d sort of like another consultation to determine what, if anything, has changed in the meanwhile.
Since it’s known that exposure to parasites is correlated with lower rates of allergy I have to think this isn’t entirely coincidence. Folks immigrating from less wealthy parts of the world are far more likely to be exposed to parasites, or to have had them, or still have them, than middle-aged white women who’ve lived in suburban America all their lives.
I’m allergic to half a dozen antibiotics. I’d LOVE to be able to take penicillin, Levaquin, and the rest of them, and I’d love to not have to check each prescription I get to see if I’m being prescribed something that I’m allergic to. This hasn’t happened very often, but it happens often enough that I make a point of checking. And there’s nothing quite like being happy with a new antibiotic, it’s working well, and having a hospital worker hang a new bag of it and connect it with your IV, and breaking out in terrible itchy hives all over. And then having to call a nurse for some Benadryl.
I don’t think that the crazy causes the allergies. I think that the allergies, and the precautions that allergic people have to take, either cause or aggravate the crazies. As the saying goes, you’re not paranoid if they really ARE trying to kill you! Or if they really are just dumping MSG into your food.
And actually, I pity my doctor. If I go in for a bacterial infection, he holds his head, and I apologize for being allergic. However, he’s seen some of my allergic reactions, so he knows that I’m not faking them.
Well, I gotta say, having been poor, a lot of the time if you can’t afford an office visit, let alone treatment, then maybe, just maybe, there’s some culling going on. The blue-collar/immigrants tend to not go to the doctor, and they die of something that could have been cured with a shot of penicillin. Plus, of course, their immune systems have been exercised by more contact with a wider variety of parasites.