If you do not believe in God and/or Jesus Christ spare yourself. Do NOT click on:
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What makes you think that those of us who believe in G-d would be any less offended?
I have no problem with most of it but the George Washington quote from the Farewell Address did NOT include “It is impossible to govern the world rightly without God and the Bible.” Dave Barton admits that such a quote in not verifiable. Also, Thomas Jefferson, while not the absolute secularist/seperationist he is alleged to be, regarded Jesus as perhaps the wisest & most Godly philosopher but not a miracle-worker or in any way Divine. Washington’s more evangelical-type prayers were written as a young man, in more devout days, whereas in his older years, he spoke more generically of Divine Providence.
Well, as a gen-u-wine, church going, committed Christian, I would have to say that I found that site pretty offensive. (I generally am offended when members of the Nine Commandment Christian sects (They do not recognize “Do not bear false witness” as a sin) attempt to corner the market on citizenship with lies and distortions.)
To take a couple of easy ones: My folks used to buy old history text books at book sales, so I read a lot of different school tets from the 1920s through the early 1950s. All those “facts” that they claim were “removed” from the history books? I never saw one of them from the “good old days.” They were not removed because they were never there.
Then there is the hijacking and complete distortion of the words of Thomas Jefferson with the fudging of the sentiments of George Washington, as noted by FriarTed. Given the pious sentiments atrtributed to James Madison, (provided they are not created or distorted for that web site), it is interesting to note that he was one of the most fervent opponents of mixing religious beliefs and government. This would seem to indicate that he was a believer who was honest enough and intelligent enough to know that the two should be separate.
The court cases mentioned on the site really happened, but the conclusions drawn by the author are generally false.
feh
Glurge is glurge.
Even if the page was 100 percent true, so what? These guys also probably thought blacks were inferior to whites, does that mean we should teach white supremacy in school too?
I enjoyed the way the portrait of Jesus was slipped in there amongst the portraits of U.S. presidents.
But I don’t see a debate here, or anything that’s particularly offensive. It’s just another “Get the Bible back into our schools!” web page. So what? 
Can’t find it now, but in a GQ thread a while back, someone posted a great link to a page (and this one even had real footnotes n’ stuff) that made a pretty good case that most of the “big name” founding fathers (Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Thomas Paine, basically everyone on money), at the time of the writing of the constitution were deists who may have admired Jesus, but didn’t belive in his divinity.
That said, I’m sure the a lot (probably the majority) of the founding fathers were devout christians, which makes it all the more impressive that they had the foresight to create a secular nation. Apparently watching Europe rip itself apart during the religious wars and persecutions during the last two hundred years had taught an important lesson.
I lie. I can and did find the link. Here it is, but beware its PDFness. Credit Crandolf as the one who originally posted it in another thread.
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Who knows, it just might spark a debate of the SOCAS issues. We’ve never had one of those in the last few hours.
Huh. I thought the real religion of the Founding Fathers and their countrymen was drinking to excess and filing lawsuits, though you’d never guess from all the websites claiming they spent their simple lives working and praying. Early Americans were a HIGHLY litigious (and drunken) bunch and many of the Founding Fathers were lawyers.
So then we ARE sticking to the FF’s ideals!
Sweet. 
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Thanks Tom. I also have a real problem with people who claim to worship the truth and then eagerly embrace distirtions to try and make some point. In many cases it is just a case of trusting the source without doing the research, but its still less than honest.
I resent the implied spirtitual dibbs that they think Chrsitianity has on America. I support the sepration of church and state although in some cases it does go to far.
I doubt that those who pickett to have the ten commandments in a court house would support the public display of symbols of other religions.
Well, some people find dishonesty offensive. I’m also offended by the “Get the Bible back in our schools” thing, unless its part of a general teaching about the religions of the world and how they relate to history. I’d love to see our kids get an overview of the major religions . I just don’t want them being taught that only one is “right” At least not in a public school.
spingears, ever going to come back to address any of the points folks have raised about the page in the OP?
Here’s mine again, in case you missed it.