For fuck's sake, people, it's just a boob. Get over it.

[World_Eater]

@Reepicheep

This is a numbers game to sell time for the adverts. People who want boobage (thanks lieu) at all times in all places with no ability not to choose boobage, and people who wish to be able to choose or not choose boobage according to their preference at the moment. The group with the larger amount of people will win.

This has nothing to do with adverts, this has everything to do with the crapper this country is rapidly spiraling down.

We are reaching a level of PC insanity here. With all the problems we face, a goddamn nipple flashed on the air for literally 30 seconds is the end of civilization?

Consider my mind boggled.

What you don’t realize is you assholes are destroying this country. Yes, you read that correctly.

YOUR SMALL BRITTLE MINDS ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!.

First off, I wouldn’t have heard about this if you people hadn’t made such a fucking stink about it. I watched the stupid halftime show, and I went to take a 30 second piss, and missed it all. Luckily I the paper the next day deemed it neccessary to place some huge “OUTRAGE!!!” headline on the front page.

Second, you dumbasses don’t realize that you are FEEDING THE MEDIA TROLL by giving this non news the light of day.

Third, explain to me how people in Europe raise their children, and they’re not all psychopaths. I’ve been over there many times, and wonder why the hell we’re such a nation of tightasses.

Fourth, because of this stupidity, MY taxpayer money is going to be wasted on senate hearings on the matter, AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE, BECAUSE ALL PARTIES INVOLVED ARE LAUGHING TO THE BANK!!

With all the shit going on, we’re freaking out over a fucking nipple.

God help us.

[Brutus]

@World Eater

What you don’t realize is you assholes are destroying this country. Yes, you read that correctly.

Correction. Prattling fools, such as yourself, are what is destroying this country. 50 years ago, we would not have been having this conversation, since women dressing like whores and flashing tits on TV was simply not done. Fast forward, 50 years of idiots like you and DtC slowly chipping away at the moral fabric of America, and whammo! And to add insult to injury, you simpering fops have the audacity to be upset that people in general are upset with inappropriate images on TV, at inappropriate times.

You fools simply won’t be happy until some guy is fucking a frozen turkey during Seasame Street, will you? Heck, where is the harm in that!? :rolleyes:

[buttonjockey308]

Ok, I get the whole “I didn’t choose it, so therefore it’s not right” arguement, it has some actual validity, but in reality, such an arguement can be made about anything on the flickering box.

Lieu said…It’s not whether or not the sight of any sexual part of human anatomy is good or bad. That’s not the issue here. It’s that someone is forcing their morality on me, circumventing my standards and level of comfort with regard to what I want to bring into the privacy of MY home.

Someone forces their morality on me everytime I turn on the news, or a sitcom, or talk show, those people don’t let me see anything THEY don’t want me to see, it goes both ways, i suppose, but we err constantly on the side of puritanical political correctness, purporting what passes for decency as a common standard and truth as decidedly subjective.

The gatekeepers of the information get to choose who sees what and how they see it. Access to the dissemination of said information is limited to those deemed worthy by the petty hierarchal bureaucrats who wield their power like a broadsword, rather than a scalpel.

When people like Janet Jackson decide to deviate from their pre-laid plans, and things like this happen (admittedly, it was shameless self promotion and pandering) everyone is publicly outraged because they have to be. This nation is collectively ashamed of itself, and awash in guilt at the mere thought of anything approaching nudity.

They fear the damage that might be wrought at the flash of a human breast on televison, but have no problem with death, murder, and other violence as entertainment. If you caress the breast, your film will be rated x and issued a stigma, if you cut the woman in half, you get a pg rating, and a windfall.

It’s time that America, and Americans grew up, and dealt with the exposure of the human form. It is simply adorned biology, nothing more, and nothing less, if you cannot explain that to your children when they ask, perhaps you should have not had them in the first place.

[carrot]

@Brutus

You fools simply won’t be happy until some guy is fucking a frozen turkey during Seasame Street, will you? Heck, where is the harm in that!? :rolleyes:

Preach on, Brother Brutus. After all, the very next step from a boob flash is beastiality on children’s programming. (And necrophiliac beastiality, too: For Shame!)

I trust your wife didn’t expose her breast to your children while feeding them, Brutus? Good show, old man. After all, if they saw a breast in their formative stages, who knows what would have happened to them?

[Ogre]

@vibrotronica

Since Justin Timberlake is a native of Memphis, he would have convenient access to the actual crossroads, the intersection of Highways 61 and 49 near Clarksdale, Mississippi, where Robert Johnson sold his soul to the devil.

No, no, no, no! That crossroads is mentioned only because it’s convenient. It is, and always has been, way too busy to be The Crossroads. Besides, if I remember correctly, where 49 crosses 61, it’s only a three-way intersection, with the other leg of 49 dog-legged off that by a little ways. NOT a proper crossroads, much less THE Crossroads.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

[Applause for buttonjockey]
Exactly. I’m offended by a lot of the crap I see on television. I’m offended by media cheerleading for an illegal war. I’m offended when athletes have to turn every interview into a praise Jesus rally. I’m offended by stupid commercials. I’m offended by sitcoms that pair middle aged, fat comedians with hot, skinny wives. I’m offended by that godawful Leo Greenwood song. I don’t want my daughter to have to listen to that.

But I don’t think that my personal indignation is so important that I need to call a network affiliate and whine about it. I’ve never felt that it was my responsibility to get something out of the sight of everybody else. I don’t think that the world should conform to my personal sensibilities.

We need some perspective. Two seconds of titty is not a national crisis.

[World_Eater]

@Brutus

Correction. Prattling fools, such as yourself, are what is destroying this country. 50 years ago, we would not have been having this conversation, since women dressing like whores and flashing tits on TV was simply not done. Fast forward, 50 years of idiots like you and DtC slowly chipping away at the moral fabric of America, and whammo! And to add insult to injury, you simpering fops have the audacity to be upset that people in general are upset with inappropriate images on TV, at inappropriate times.

Christ you’re a fucking tool Brutus. You assholes think you can complain and bitch and sue your way to some nonexistant fantasy world. The sad part you aren’t preparing your children for tomorrow, you are just raising a generation of super whiners. Educate your fucking child, tell them what happened, and move on. Is that so hard?

You fools simply won’t be happy until some guy is fucking a frozen turkey during Seasame Street, will you? Heck, where is the harm in that!? :rolleyes:

If you equate fucking a frozen turkey and showing a breast for a few seconds on tv then you must be a special kind of stupid.

Unless there are plenty of places in the world where fucking a turkey is as normal as anything else, I’d shut the fuck up now, because you are being a bigger fool then usual.

[lieu]

Who’s to say what you show in your house Phil? You want me to dictate your “level of comfort”? Personally, I kinda think that ought to be up to you. Why in the heck should you raise issue with mine, which you just did, and why in the heck should anyone else have sway over yours?

Are you not getting the message here, Bud? It’s not whether or not Janet’s tit is kosher, it’s whether or not producers/networks/entertainers have the right to lie to me and display something I’d personally chosen NOT to see.

People tune in expecting to see a predetermined level of exposure to certain elements. You let me know when it’s okay with you to walk into a restaurant with your kids or parents and the maitr’d de ask you “Hey, where the fuck y’all wanna sit, eh?”

It’s your choice. You wanna give that up?

Now, upon preview we get this little gem…

buttonjockey308said:
It’s time that America, and Americans grew up, and dealt with the exposure of the human form. It is simply adorned biology, nothing more, and nothing less, if you cannot explain that to your children when they ask, perhaps you should have not had them in the first place.

Issues of what we choose to share with the kiddies aside, you’re now suggesting that should we not embrace your sentiments, we shouldn’t have kids at all?

Let’s throw this beauty out once again so we can revel in it’s amjesty…

Originally posted by buttonjocky308

perhaps you should have not had them in the first place.

Bolding mine. Fuck up yours.

[Brutus]

It seems that even 8th-Graders can grasp what seems to be so foreign a concept to some of the fucking morons here.

…And overall, they weren’t happy with the halftime show. Like their parents, the children see the Super Bowl as a family event, and don’t think what happened with Jackson and Timberlake was appropriate, Gnau reported.
“I thought it was all good until the end,” Smith said. “I thought the end was a little bit inappropriate, being that kids of all ages were watching it.”

Bolding mine.

If you want your kid to see nudity, buy him a Playboy. Leave the public airwaves out of your fucked-up social experimentation.

[lieu]

Originally posted by WorldEater

The sad part you aren’t preparing your children for tomorrow, you are just raising a generation of super whiners. Educate your [deleted]child, tell them what happened…

Let me quote you here… “you”, “your”

Did you hear yourself?

“you”, “your”

Did you hear me?

“you”, “your”

Get it? You decide. Not someone else.

[Jodi]

Exactly. I’m offended by a lot of the crap I see on television. I’m offended by media cheerleading for an illegal war. I’m offended when athletes have to turn every interview into a praise Jesus rally. I’m offended by stupid commercials. I’m offended by sitcoms that pair middle aged, fat comedians with hot, skinny wives. I’m offended by that godawful Leo Greenwood song. I don’t want my daughter to have to listen to that.

See, here you’re talking about what you personally find objectionable, as opposed to claiming that society as a whole doesn’t have (and doesn’t have the right to have) societal standards just because you don’t happen to agree with them.

What’s wrong with JJ’s tit? Well, for that matter, what’s wrong with Justin’s dick? Why don’t we all just dispense with clothing and let it all flap in the wind? I’ll tell you why. Because we have as a society decided what is appropriate and what is not, on lots of subjects, including dress. Want to live in a society where you can see limitless titty? Join the Masai. Want to live in a society where not so much as an female ankle is glimpsed? Try Saudi Arabia.

There are different standards in different societies, and consequently different expectations. The prevailing American standard – and average American expectation – is no tit on CBS at 3 p.m. during a sporting event. And as I have already said, that is a defensible position – easily as defensible as the position that it was every so okay to spring Janet’s boob on the watching world with no notice.

So all of the navel-gazing about whether there’s anything wrong with nudity, or whether every single person who objected, even mildly, is a tight-ass, or whether prevailing standards are logical (sometimes they’re not) or can be defended (most times they can) – it’s all just so much B.S. Because at the end of the day, for whatever reason, there is a prevailing American standard for what is appropriate, and it clearly was violated. And people have every right to object to that – especially when the violation was unexpected so that they didn’t have the option of missing out on it (or having their kids do so) if they chose.

So you weren’t offended enough by it to call about it – well, BFD. Some people were. Why is their offense objectionable, when your lack of offense isn’t? DIOGENES, you say “I don’t think the world should conform to my personal sensibilities” – don’t you see the irony of posting that in this thread? Because, in fact, that is exactly what you are saying. You were not offended, so therefore no one should be. So which is it? Are we allowed to make up our own minds? Because in that case you’ll have to choke down the fact that some people – lots of people – legitimately do not agree with your assessment. Or are we to submit to group standards? Because in that case, your assessment still doesn’t prevail, since yours is not the prevailing standard.

[SkyBum]

@Brutus

It seems that even 8th-Graders can grasp what seems to be so foreign a concept to some of the fucking morons here.

Bolding mine.

If you want your kid to see nudity, buy him a Playboy. Leave the public airwaves out of your fucked-up social experimentation.

Question here Brutus…

Are you so caught up in your indignation over a titty shot that you forget how many murders / rapes / violent crimes your 8th graders are subjected to on a REGULAR daily basis? Would you PLEASE take a moment and think about this because the titty shot SHOULD pale in comparison when given a shred of rational thought.

Perhaps you should get your priorities straight…there are MUCH worse ideals being promoted on public television than boobies.

[iampunha]

@Brutus

Correction. Prattling fools, such as yourself, are what is destroying this country. 50 years ago, we would not have been having this conversation, since women dressing like whores and flashing tits on TV was simply not done. Fast forward, 50 years of idiots like you and DtC slowly chipping away at the moral fabric of America, and whammo! And to add insult to injury, you simpering fops have the audacity to be upset that people in general are upset with inappropriate images on TV, at inappropriate times.

You fools simply won’t be happy until some guy is fucking a frozen turkey during Seasame Street, will you? Heck, where is the harm in that!? :rolleyes:

Pat Robertson, is that you?

50 years ago Ed Sullivan et al. didn’t want to show more than Elvis’ neck and head during a concert. The screaming teenage girls who watched the thing obviously saw more. Back then, things we consider perfectly ordinary (unless we happen to think that baring ankles in public is grounds for a flogging, of course) now were seen in the same manner that Janet Jackson’s right breast (Canvasshoes, I could swear her nipple’s covered, but I’m no expert) is seen today.

And I’m not exactly seeing, in the 50 years of moral decay, how exactly this country has gone to shit. Past few years, maybe. The 80s weren’t exactly a picnic, but 50 solid years of straight-up decay? I’m not buying it, unless by “moral decay” you mean “it is possible to see most of a naked human on television if you are willing to pay for it.” I think the Discovery Channel people would be intrigued by the notion of that definition of moral decay.

And I, in turn, am intrigued by the notion that allowing a child to see part or all of a naked human body is somehow going to fuck then up. It’s not like we’re broadcasting the fugly.com photo album and replacing Barney and Mr. Rogers with rotting filth.

[Jodi]

And another thing: All those of you who complain that America is arrogant and ego-centric and unconcerned with world opinion? I hope you understand that crap like this is why a lot of societies perceive America as the amoral Great Satan. So keep in mind that it wasn’t just 85 million Americans treated to the antics of Boobs McPerky, it was also 300 million Chinese and Lord knows how many Muslims, who just had every opinion about the irredeemable degeneracy of America explicitly confirmed. They think that we’re Dallas and 90210 and Britney Spears’ navel and flagrantly sexual groping and grinding and breast-flashing in the middle of our freaking sporting events. And that’s all they think we are, because that’s what they see.

So if you’re not too busy denying that American standards were flagrantly violated, you might keep in mind that much of the world has standards that are far more rigid than ours. All of you who are always ever so concerned about what the rest of the world thinks of us – You think their opinions just went up? Or down?

[Jodi]

And here’s two logical fallacies for you:

1. If something is not perfectly okay, then it must suck entirely. I.e., the only choice here is that Janet’s tit was just dandy, or that merely glimpsing it fucks children up beyond belief.

2. Something cannot be bad, so long as you can point to something worse. I.e., since indiscriminate violence exists, indiscriminate sexualization and nudity must be okay.

I trust most of us can see why neither of these is true.

[SkyBum]

Jodi:

Based upon the common denominator that is american television, do you honestly believe that ONE titty shot has had any great influence upon international opinion?

[Nightime]

One problem Jodi - it is precisely because of our national puritan standards that such stunts can happen.

There is no good reason why female breasts should be considered “indecent”, and in fact I think doing so is sexist and wrong.
So let’s look at two scenarios:

1. We have insane, sexist, obviously wrong-headed standards, and people constantly feel the need to flout them, thus producing a society of sensationalism that looks bad to the world.

2. We have sensible standards, and because there is no “shock value” to be gained by flouting those standards, stunts like this are worthless and don’t happen.
   Which is a better place to live? Which looks better to the world?

Your analysis is flawed, because you fail to take into account that incidents like this would happen less, if at all, if we got rid of our more insane and sexist puritan “morals”.

[Jodi]

@SkyBum

Jodi:

Based upon the common denominator that is american television, do you honestly believe that ONE titty shot has had any great influence upon international opinion?

I don’t believe that ONE anything on TV has any great influence upon international opinion. But I do believe that the common denominator of American television sure as hell didn’t go up yesterday, and that if you were looking to maximize the number of international viewers witnessing any given display, the Super Bowl would be a pretty good bet. But then, I never said that ONE titty shot did anything. There is a cumulative effect of the “Americanization” of culture, and a lot of people find it not just alarming but offensive. This may be just one instance of that phenomenon, but you can bet it will be an instance that it convenient to point to and difficult to defend.

[Drastic]

So all of the navel-gazing about…

I’m not sure that’s the right piece of anatomy.

Anyway, all I know is that a publicity stunt has shockingly ruined the sanctity of the family venue of huge steroid-marinated mesomorphs grunting and screaming as they slam violently into each other over and over again in pads and tights. And I hope America can recover from the scars this has inflicted upon our tattered moral fabric, not to mention the ongoing sapping and impurifying of our precious bodily fluids.

[Nightime]

There is a cumulative effect of the “Americanization” of culture, and a lot of people find it not just alarming but offensive. This may be just one instance of that phenomenon, but you can bet it will be an instance that it convenient to point to and difficult to defend.

It has been said that America is the “sexiest” country in the world.

Simply because we sexualize more things.
I would say that “Americanization” is illustrated by the deeply psychotic sensationalism we attribute to a female breast, which is oddly enough what you are arguing for in this thread.
The alternative would be to acknowledge that a female breast is a perfectly normal body part and in no way obscene.
That would effectively let the air out of all these stunts, all of which rely on puritan insanity for their very existence.