Ah, so now we have some real drama, in the form of Oredigger vs. Rysto. I would like to hear from the (presumed) Masons before I completely make up my mind (do either of the posted PMs look inconsistent with their own?), but I’m more suspicious of Oredigger. First, as already pointed out, it makes more sense for a real Town doctor to counterclaim a Scum liar than the other way around. Second, though, Oredigger’s claimed strategy doesn’t make sense. He says he’s been self-protecting, but also that he was trying to avoid being targeted for the Night-kill. If he’s self-protecting anyway, then he should be trying even harder than normal to get targeted. OK, the Scum would still be able to eventually come back to him after he starts protecting others, but still, a Doctor who stops one Night-kill is already doing pretty well.
Of course, there’s also a niggling little part of my brain that says there’s still the possibility that they’re both Scum, but I think that’s just paranoia: I haven’t seen anything ping-worthy from Rysto yet, and it’d be an incredibly risky ploy for Scum to double-claim a power role, especially when they haven’t yet seen a genuine Town power role PM. If they have double-claimed, then there should probably still be a genuine Doctor out there who can out both of them, and any Townie should jump at the chance for a 2-for-1 trade.
Yeah, Rysto hasn’t done much to give anybody reason to doubt him, whereas Oredigger has. I was so sure he was town that I took his word for it and voted for you, actually, Chronos, so… all right, bad example. But it would just be a silly move for him to come out as scum and counter-claim just to get the doctor killed in a game where town power roles are already dwindling. It’s hard to see a scenario where that trade makes sense for scum.
Also, I don’t like Mahaloth’s response to it all. His uncertainty seems insincere.
Uhhh . . . I got caught up in the town’s complacency on Day two and made a bad vote. I wasn’t even trying to manipulate the town just get a vote on record after I managed to miss the end of Day 1. It’s kind of frustrating that I would have made that same vote no matter my role. At least I got the Doc to counter claim me.
On a different note I find the game design questions fascinating I keep thinking that I want to try my hand a moding but every time I read these I realize how much time you guys put in to make the games so much fun and I realize I just don’t have the time.
You don’t need to worry about it too, too much. I’m just a bit obsessive about these things. Things don’t have to be perfectly balanced. I just like to know how balanced things are for future games, and what combinations of things are more powerful than they seem at first glance.
I figure if I were to ever make a game, I’d just use a previously ballanced game and change the color. And then maybe tweak from there. I think that would be easier than starting from scratch.
That is an excellent way to do it. Furthermore, if you notice something about the previous game that isn’t quite right, you can do a small modification as well.
Building crazy new ideas from scratch is where balance really becomes an effort.
Not exactly, I was voting for him because he was the only player to vote for Kelly in a close race who hadn’t already been proven to be Town. And I (we) were right!
It seems a little too authentic for him to be putting it on, but if I was still playing I’d be driving myself NUTS trying to figure out what his angle is on giving himself up like that.
This is too bad, if true. I think Tom is a great player and would be missed. I can understand getting burnt out; I’ve been there, but it seems just finding just one scum or not being killed on day 1 is enough to pump me up to play another game and try to get better.
Chronos: It seems like the only way that I play the game well is if I take it personally, and if I’m going to completely half-ass all my games the way I did story’s game on idle, there’s no point. I’m going to take Jimmy’s advice to Meeko on this one; not worth the aggro.
Peeker, the thing that actually killed me was Drain’s unvote and the realization that I was going to have to screw myself up again next week if things kept trending the way they seemed to. I was really burned out and exhausted the past two days, and it was Not Fun.
i guess what i don’t get is that some of me best internet friends our the mafia folks. look at poker tonight, holy crud it was down to just a bunch of grey beards and now we’ve got some new blood who just like yukking around.
and i guess with me since i play here, giraffe and idle there’s always another game underway or another one that is getting ready to go so getting whacked in one isn’t real impactful.
also, you get to meet some fine folks. i’ve had some relatively good off board interaction with them. just because they think you are full of shit in the game don’t mean jack when it comes to rl (ask chitwood).
but if creates stress and heartache, fcs, stop. but you are a good player and getting called on your bullshit isn’t necessarily a bad thing. shoot, i know that in spades.
