Forgotten Heros, National Disgrace

I write this on behalf of a group of forgotten veterans who are unable to write it themselves. Sadly, they are all dead now, many of them killed by their own troops. They served this country with bravery and destinction, asking for little more than love and companionship in return, and as a reward they were treated to the cold sting of a needle or abandoned to the ravages of an Asian jungle. I am speaking, of course, about the War Dogs of Vietnam.

Dogs have always played a part in every war the United States has been in in the 20th century. “Stubby”, a stray bull terrier was adopted by the men of the 102 Infantry in WWI and served with such valor that Black Jack pershing himself gave the dog a special gold medal. He was a life member in the American Legion, and met presidents and marched in parades until his death in 1926. In WWII, thousands of dogs served, one named Chips took 14 Italian soldiers prisoner, being wounded in the process. He was awarded the Silver Star and the Purple Heart. Both medals were later revoed after complaints that awarding them to a mere dog demeaned the men who also received them. :rolleyes: No War Dog has received a medal since then. Korea added another chapter to this glorious brotherhood, so terrifing the Communist soldiers that “Yankee, Take your dog and go home!” was a common propaganda line issuing from their loudspeakers. In 1953, peace broke out and these dogs came home. With the global focus shifting to nuclear war, in 1957 the Army closed it’s last dog training center. Then came Vietnam.

The harsh realities of a war in the jungle quickly convinced the Army that dogs were again a necessity. Thousands of dogs were trained and sent to Vietnam. It has been estimated that they saved over 10,000 lives during the course of that war. They serverd as guards, went into tunnels after Viet Cong guerillas, and walked point with their handlers through dangerous, uncharted territory.

And then the war ended. America abandoned South Vietnam in haste. But what about the dogs? The dogs were clasified as “surplus equipment” and either euthanised or abandoned. These brave, noble companions were treated no differently than a broken jeep or an obsolite rife and destroyed, despite the desperite pleas of their handlers to be allowed to bring them home. It is a national disgrace that is almost never mentioned in the history books.

What can you do to rectify this tradgedy? Well, nothing can change the past, and efforts to recognise their acomplishments have often been stonewalled. The USPS refused to remember these cannine heros on a stamp despite over 100,000 signatures asking that they do so, yet Elvis and Bugs Bunny have stamps. The veteren dog handlers aplied to plant a tree in memory of their lost companions at Arlington National Cemetery. They were turned down. The Smithsonian refuses to recognise War Dogs in their new Armed Forces History Hall.
Some progress has been made, however. An excellent documentary aired 2 years ago on the Discovery Chanel, and 2 memorials have been built, one in California at March field and one in Georgia at Fort Benning. As yet there is no national memorial, but the Vietnam Dog Handler Association is accepting funds for a national memorial. If you are so inclined, you can contribute at their website. If not, I urge you to take a moment to hug your own dog tight, give him an extra doggie treat, and remind him that he is a spiritual kinsdog to some of the bravest beings ever to serve this country. And please, don’t forget that some of the price of our freedom was paid by four legged soldiers, fearlessly assisting their two legged companions.

Spreading the word. That’s what can be done. Would you mind if I copied this and sent it to my friends?

Thanks for sharing, Dave. I had no idea this sad fate existed.

Dave–
I printed out that poem that we discussed last night, and gave it to my American History teacher.

I made him promise that we would learn about Canine help in Vietnam, and he thought it was a good idea as well.

Thank you, Dave

Adam

Pucette,

By all means. Spread the word far and wide.
Adam,

Your teacher might try to get a hold of the Discovery Chanel documentary, it’s called War Dogs, America’s Forgotten Heros. Very good, very moving.

I am probably one of the relatively few who know of this tragedy and embarrasment. It is one of the few blights on the rule, “You never leave a Marine behind.” These dogs were soldiers and Marines, and the betrayal shown to them is criminal. I do not place humans and animals on the same level, but heroism is to be rewarded no matter WHAT the DNA says your species is. Damn, you, Weirddave you made my eyes cloud up. I do support the group you linked, thanks for posting it here. Obviously you feel very strongly about this. Thank you.

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bill knows what he’s talking about–
and glad to know we’ve got Marine around here :slight_smile:

There are more than a few Marines hanging out here. I am but one.

Perhaps a fire hydrant could be erected in their honor? :smiley:
Seriously, though, this is a tragedy that shouldn’t have happened. That so many former marines and soldiers were left behind to starve or be captured, killed, and eaten is a big blotch on this nation’s history. But the public is being made aware, slowly but surely. Eventually something will come of it, I’m sure. Just like the WWII memorial, eventually enough people will demand that something be done about it.

Thnx Dave. I knew about how they had left a lot of dogs behind. I had no idea they left so many. I also had no idea there was any kind of group doing anything about it. How awful it must have been for the dog handlers to have to leave behind their best friends, at their own military’s demands. How digusted this all makes me feel.

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention, Dave. You’re right, it *is * a disgrace, and a blight on our country’s history. I had known about the dogs of WWI and II, but didn’t realize there were so many over in 'Nam. It is totally unconscionable to me that this ever was allowed to happen to those brave soldiers, and worse that knowledge of them, and their many acts of bravery, have been denied the rest of us. They are every bit as deserving of a monument at the very least for their unswerving devotion to us dumb humans, and all of the lives they saved.

I have a dog and two cats, and I’m sure if I could tell them about this atrosity, they’d be as appalled as I am. I’ve already hugged Krystal, our Jack Russell terrier mix, who has proven her inate intelligence many times in the brief year we’ve had her, though she is now just 15 months old. I will certainly contribute what I can to the fund for that national monument, utterly inadequate though that monument be for their many sacrifices.

Like UncleBill said: *These dogs were soldiers and Marines, and the betrayal shown to them is criminal. I do not place humans and animals on the same level, but heroism is to be rewarded no matter WHAT the DNA says your species is. * <bolding mine>

And darian00: That so many former marines and soldiers were left behind to starve or be captured, killed, and eaten is a big blotch on this nation’s history. That is what sickens me most, I think; that they were abandoned in a country that considers dogs to be a delicacy to be eaten.

<bowing her head in a silent tribute, purplebear goes off to hug her dog yet again, wishing she could hug all of those brave soldiers who gave their lives and/or were abandoned over there>

I just added a new dog to my family today. An airedale terrier pup who’s family realized after 2 months that a puppy grows. And chews and jumps up on kids. So he had to go. Fortunately she’s mine now, 'til death do us part. I’ll make a donation in honour of my current dogs, Ruffian, Mike, Simon, Faith and Trick, and in memory of Kate and Sid and Sarah. My most loyal friends.

StG

A travesty indeed; our canine companions have served admirably in past conflicts, and still serve today domestically, from the drug and bomb sniffing dogs, to the civilian law enforcement and military working dogs. Dogs also are the first line of defense against an intruder into a home, as well as a deterrant to break ins.

I know first hand what it is to leave a dog behind, as when my family rotated back from Italy in 1972 I had to leave my dog Trixie. She was a border collie I had rescued from the streets, a victim of babaric cruelty. The only consolation is that we left her with a kind family, and didn’t abandon her. I still miss her.

I have to speculate how many handlers in 'nam, realizing there was no recourse, shot their dogs; I can only imagine the emotional scar that left.

Thanks, Dave.

hopefully this will come off as just the opposite.

I have a dog myself and understand the usual relationship. I could only imagine that between a dog and a soldier whose life depends on him/her.

All I’d like to say, really, is that for all Dogs can do they go under appreciated. Huge sums are spent on devices meant to detect explosives, humans, and such. While I think it’s a worthy effort, a hand held device of equal or greater fidelity of that of a dog would reduce proximate loads and logistacal footprints, it does seem as if the death of a dogsoldier is less mourned in general. On some level this is understandable. On another level, intuitively (and this could be all wrong) dogs understand on some level emotion and definitely respond to losses amongst their own. They also respond to our treatment of them. This may seem foolish and even crazy but official “services” for fallen dogs might actually help maintain the psychological health of the animals.

In any case, everyone’s hearts are in the right place. If it wouldn’t help the dogs cope, it would sure help the human handlers cope.

“Stubby” The WWI dog mentioned above is stuffed and displayed in the Smithsonian. You can see him here.

Vietnam Dog Handler Association

War Dogs: The Untol Story of Dogs in Combat

Some links with the stories of the men who fought, bled and died with their furry buddies.

If you watch the video, have a box of kleenex close to hand.

I’m going to bump this thread. I just watched the War Dogs video again, and the point was driven home to me once more. More importantly, it’s been a couple of years since I posted this, a whole new whack of people need to see it.

Thanks, Dave. I’m not sure I can handle watching the video. I contributed one of those Vietnam war dogs (a one-year-old German Shepard, in 1965). I sure hope he wasn’t one of the ones left behind.