Bwahaha all you like. I never presented this as some intensive study. If you followed the conversation you jumped into, you’d see I was merely offering my gut feelings in response to someone else’s.
I’m okay with Bloomberg’s candidacy, but wish he would have entered the race sooner.
My guess is Bloomberg is motivated as much by Biden’s weaknesses and flaws as he is by Warren’s strength. From his point of view, there’s no backup with mainstream centrist cred if Biden loses.
And the next time you ponder why I post “you win the internet”, just reflect for even a second about what was going through your head, as an upper middle class adult, when you went to the trouble of typing out " Buahahahahahahaha!!!".
Yes, Bloomberg has undoubted experience with governing. He has real credibility on that score.
But I’m not seeing a real appeal to two important constituencies: voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and other swing states; or voters of color. Also: being 76 doesn’t make him unusual in this field, but it isn’t an asset, either.
The only person who’d be a slam-dunk in this race is Michelle Obama.
Her kids are now 21 and 18. She could do it if she wanted to. The thing is–with respect to this being a thread about Bloomberg–that she probably should start out as someone’s Vice President to gain additional credibility for an ultimate run at the Presidency–which could be in 2024 if she VPed for one of the old candidates. (She’s 55.)
Bloomberg should bend his efforts toward drafting her. He could promise to fund her favorite charity to the tune of many millions, for example. He could point out that Biden is faltering and there is real danger of Trump getting those Electoral College votes again. She may not be politically ambitious, but she’d respond to a call to public service.
Mike ‘n’ Michelle 2020!
I agree that Bloomberg is 4 years too late; I wanted him to run in 2016. But shit, if Biden fizzles and we’re left with the rest of the field, Bloomberg can’t be that bad.
Oh, I think he’d be a good President. I’m just a bit skeptical about his chances in the general. But I’m happy to wait to see what the polls say.
The biggest mistake is to assume that ‘most voters see it the way I do’ (and I think that goes for everyone whether they admit it or not).
Would 4 more years of Trump be bad? Maybe it would goad us into appropriate action? From this it would be obvious that only would ballot choice should appear on the ballot.
No, you presented it as an assertion of fact.
Then say so. Qualify your assertion. Use words. People can’t read your mind.
If you present gut feelings as statements of fact, you should expect to have problems in this forum.
Four more years of Trump would be pretty terrible. There would be basically no restraints on him in a second term. In another four years, the Federal courts would be wall-to-wall right-wing hacks, just the way his Cabinet is already. There would be no brakes on Trump’s abuse of executive power.
For the courts if for nothing else, another Trump term would be a disaster.
The idea that ‘more Trump might be good because Americans will rise up only if things get really bad’ rests on some very shaky assumptions. The major one, perhaps: that Americans (like all humans) don’t simply acclimate to whatever horrors are visited on them by their dictator.
People adjust much more often than they rebel. It’s a case of frog in pot of water being brought to a boil, rather than a case of Spartacus, for most of the history of the species.
There was a recent article (wish I could find it) which pointed that a 2020 Democratic presidential victory could be bad for the D’s, because the economy is likely to go into recession by 2021, which could be promptly blamed on the D-president even if not his/her fault, which could then usher the Republicans right back into the White House in 2024. Additionally, midterm elections tend to go against the ruling party, so Republicans could either strengthen their Senate majority or regain it in 2022.
Then, if Ginsburg and/or Breyer go, you could have a Republican president, Republican senate, in 2024 or beyond, paving the way for a 7-2 conservative Supreme Court.
Of course, the impending recession could hit early in 2020 and get Trump out of the White House, but if it waits til 2021, then it’s bad for Team Blue.
I agree. The only priority. The ONLY priority! should be getting the current resident out of the white house.
No issue is more important. NO issue is more important.
I don’t give a shit whether they are in favor of a public option or full on single payer health care. Just tell me which candidate is going to win more electoral votes.
I don’t give a shit whether they support government financing of abortions.
I don’t care where they stand on guns.
I don’t care where they stand on invading Iran with nuclear tanks.
We can hash all that out later.
We have to beat this guy and not just by a little bit, it has to be embarrassingly lopsided. Texas and Georgia has to go blue.
We can ignore the woke SJW liberals because they will turn out no matter what. Not only will they turn out, they will canvas the streets for whatever candidate is running against Trump. Even if they don’t adhere to woke SJW liberal orthodoxy. They don’t need firing up.
We can ignore the socialist and communists because they similarly support whoever is running against Trump. They are not a swing vote this election no matter who is running against Trump.
We should deliberately ignore all of them and try to win back the middle because it’s not enough to win by a few electoral votes, we have to turn the whole goddam map blue. The loss has to be so complete that noone ever nominates someone like Trump again.
So then wtf did you mean by saying “we”?
What was that comment supposed to mean if you are not a Democrat?
RBG and Breyer cannot hold out another 8 years.
If we re-electing him, we can’t pretend the first time was a mistake. This is who we are.
If the first 4 years didn’t goad you into action, I’m not sure another 4 years will.
Redistricting in every state will occur during the 2021/2022 congress. A wave election would be a good thing for the long term strength of Democrats.
If we get a Democratic president, I expect those two to retire shortly into the second year of the new administration.
Noone can reliably predict when economies will go into recession. It could very well be a soft landing a la 1994. We could also see confidence in the economy once there are adults at the wheel again.
Told you guys last year he is running. 
And now he is officially running.
If Bernie or Warren wins the nomination, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bloomberg, or some other billionaire, either run or fund a third party campaign to give Trump the White House again. Or at minimum, support and finance Republican senate campaigns. The only way Bernie or Warren wins is if the entire country descends into a great depression and there are fist fights in the streets over bread and water. And at that point, my money’s on a military junta to restore order and order a new constitutional convention. The powers that be will never allow a Bernista to win.
he is skipping Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. going all in on March 3rd super Tues.
Bloomberg hates Trump , he won’t run 3rd party.
I like Bloomberg but he couldn’t have enter the race at a worse time if he’s hoping for a centrist candidate. Buttigieg was just gaining steam and right before he announced, Predictit had Sanders, Warren, and Buttigieg in a dead tie at 23%. Since he announced, unsurprisingly, Buttigieg is down to 18. Fucking idiot.
Fire that can be fitted nasally? fashion coloured wheels?