Among other things, he allegedly sent information, while on active duty, about ship’s locations, vulnerabilities, etc.
You can find a more detailed account here:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0308terror0308.html
His birth name was Paul Hall but I guess he changed it to Hassan Abujihaad for simplicity sake. :rolleyes:
So, how do you folks feel about this dipshit? :mad:
I’m intrigued by the fact that no charges were filed until now, even though the linked article says his actions were reported in the media over 2 years ago. Surely it didn’t take prosecutors that long to put a case together. I’m guessing they were playing him to try to catch bigger fish, but it didn’t pan out and so now they’re going to throw the book at him.
25 years in prison? I thought the penalty for treason was death. And as much as I’m against the death penalty, I have no problem seeing this guy at the end of a rope.
Hassan Abujihaad. Creative. So they had him under wraps until he tried to buy two assault rifles. That’s the thing about the World Wide Web, they can watch you be as conspicuous as you dare, then swoop in because you’re “a terrorist suspect.”
My big question is whether these emails are in fact, emails. I seem to remember a lot of people at the Ogrish forums who would all-out praise the jihad videos and executions uploaded and displayed on the site. That gruesome honey pot is now defunct – “bought out” as it were – but it’s an intriguing thought experiment: what is the minimum you have to do online to wind up with the fuzz on your tail?
RTFA. He sent classified navy information to a terrorist supporting website, which was later found by British police. That’s a little more serious than yelling “Go Osama!”
Try him. If he’s guilty, execute him. Quickly.
He is not charged with crimes that carry the death penalty. Doesn’t anyone RTFA around here?
As noted at the end, he faces 25 years if convicted.
No. We’re too busy enjoying our outrage.
Please direct me to the next bandwagon.
What’s the rush?
If we didn’t execute supreme asshole traitors Ames and Hansen, I don’t see the rush to execute this guy.
9/11 changed everything.
:rolleyes:
The more quickly it is administered (the closer to the crime it is carried out) the more it might act as a deterrent in the future. When the death penalty is to be administered, I say we move it through the system as swiftly as the law and the defendant’s rights will allow. Put extra people on it, on both sides, move through the appropriate appeals process, and be done with it.
Frank, you’re right I just skimmed it. Sorry. But I do think this type of shit should carry the death penalty. There is too much at stake. Try him and shoot him in the field I say.
Hunh, I thought capital cases did in fact move through the system as swiftly as the law and the defendant’s rights allow; if the appeal process happens to take a while, so be it. It’s not like he’ll be sunning himself in Majorca while waiting for a verdict.
As far as the supposed deterrence value is concerned, isn’t the received wisdom on Muslim jihadists that they look forward to martyrdom? I don’t get the deterrent value in swiftly executing a guy who did something that the neither his presumed fellow jihadists or the authorities managed to act upon in six years. A bit of bolting the barn door after the horse has gone, sez I.
Oh I did RTFA. Here are the parts that stick in my craw:
Detailed intelligence. From a signalman. Riiiiight.
Notwithstanding the fact that this guy’s an unsubtle moron, should YouTube-able wargames footage of the Benfold be enough to get a crop of G-Men on his ass in the first place? The story is hard to believe as it is, but if you put it in the light of Azzam being an FBI informant, it’s damnably ludicrous. Add Director Mueller’s admission to flawed Security Letters and it’s damn-near indictable.
I guess the moral of the story is: if you want to buy an AR-15, watch what you say online. Thanks to TWAT, it’s Caveat W3bb0r.
In other words, they intercepted his shit and then sat on him until they could sting him with a(n otherwise innocuous) gun charge. I don’t know if there’s a problem with my 60s-vintage bong or something, but this seems like déjà vu all over again …
Signalman do a bit more than wave flags.
Notice the security clearance required: Secret. You might also want to peruse this list of duties at each paygrade.
Larry Borgia
Since you mentioned Ames and Hansen not being executed, here’s another bastard that didn’t receive the death penalty either John Walker.
There are capital cases that take over 20 years. Absolutely ridiculous. I’m for raising threshold for capital cases, taking only those were guilt is certain and zipping them through.
It might not be a deterrent for Muslims or anyone else who wants to be martyred, but not all traitors fit into that camp.
Christ, you’re stupid. From the article:
Now how could a sailor whose duties include keeping an eye on the location of ships in his formation possibly know when and where said ships were going to be? Hmmmm. That’s a stumper, idn’t? And why would the location of U.S. forces enforcing sanctions possibly be classified? Hmmm. Do you need that one explained to you, too, El Cid Geraldo?